Russian President Vladimir Putin has seemingly invited conservatives chafing under "neoliberal ideals" in their home countries to move to Russia, where he claimed "traditional values reign supreme," and Alex Jones suggested he might take him up on the offer.The Russian president signed a decree offe...
  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    2282·
    3 months ago

    Hey, if you and your buddies wanna go, Alex, knock yourselves out. Seriously: get the fuck out of here, because the vast majority of us hate you for being one of the worst calibers of human.

        • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.worldEnglish
          13·
          3 months ago

          Funny thing is, often those kind of “based” countries also have their own version of DEI. Hungary still offers companies a tax writeoff if they’re employing disabled people, and disabled people also entitled to extra paid leaves and tax writeoff. The catch? The workplaces often have to make their jobs “disabled friendly”, which often can be just “not having to count”, due to ableist jokes of the past. Also getting tested for disability is really hard and humiliating experience, amputees are being strip searched every few years for hidden limbs (and originally everyone got that treatment to “repeal those who don’t need it”), autistic adults are getting the same questionnaires as children (because "real autistic people are low-functioning), etc. But at least we no longer have “mafia-types” (Roma) buying Mercedeses and BMWs from welfare money that was supposed to go to the “real disabled”, as far-right “news” portals like kuruc info, barikád, and bombagyár reported back in the days.

    • xmunk@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      34·
      3 months ago

      Just a moment now - before he’s allowed to go let’s make sure we get all his money into the hands of gun violence survivors.

    • chingadera@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14·
      3 months ago

      Wrong tone, we gotta take Putin’s offer before they do, scream it from the rooftops that were gonna go and make them look like “pussies.”

  • N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    1333·
    3 months ago

    ”[Putin’s] new decree blows the lid off the establishment’s agenda, letting freedom-loving folks bypass the usual bureaucratic nonsense like language tests or history exams," Jones posted on X. "If you’re ready to reject the insane policies of your home countries that push these destructive, anti-human, neoliberal agendas, Russia is rolling out the red carpet!”

    Based and fuck off to Russia pilled

    • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1221·
      3 months ago

      ”… bypass the usual bureaucratic nonsense"

      Immigration laws? Quotas? Checking that they’re not importing the “criminals, drug traffickers, human traffickers and people from insane asylum from those shithole countries”?

      “like language tests”

      “Speak 'Merican!” “Why should I press 1 for English!?”

      “or history exams,”

      “They come over here and don’t even integrate to our culture, our laws and our history. They want to bring their own culture here and replace us”

      I know it never stops, but even still this level of hypocritical entitlement still amazes me. Either way, can’t wait for these Leopard Ate My Face posts.

      • N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        54·
        3 months ago

        Russia needs meat for the meat grinder. Putin is delaying sourcing his meat from St. Petersburg or Moscow for as long as possible.

      • jonne@infosec.pubEnglish
        36·
        3 months ago

        I love how the same people that call for tougher immigration laws are clamoring for looser laws in other countries.

        You just want to go to Russia and live there without ever bothering to learn Russian? And you’re not expecting any resentment to grow against those immigrants that just come and don’t adjust?

        • palordrolap@fedia.io
          3·
          3 months ago

          There will be those - I suspect - who believe they are above speaking Russian, because they were “raised speaking the language of the greatest country on Earth”, and they will believe that the Russians will just accept that for the same reasons, because, obviously Russians know that Americans are better than them.

          This mindset is very familiar to me. I’m British.

  • zv0n@lemmy.mlEnglish
    128·
    3 months ago

    “This new decree blows the lid off the establishment’s agenda, letting freedom-loving folks bypass the usual bureaucratic nonsense like language tests or history exams”

    This coming from the “LEARN ENGLISH, YOU’RE IN AMERICA!” crowd

  • Red_October@lemmy.worldEnglish
    124·
    3 months ago

    I hope they all agree and go in one big wave, because otherwise stories of the early adopters being conscripted to die in Ukraine might dissuade the rest of them.

  • NutWrench@lemmy.worldEnglish
    124·
    3 months ago

    1980’s conservatives: “Why don’t you move to Russia if you don’t like it here?”

    2020’s conservatives: “Why don’t we move to Russia if we don’t like it here?”

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      311·
      3 months ago

      In the 1920s, a brash group of young and ideologically committed Americans saw the Bolshevik Revolution taking place in Russia and decided to travel halfway around the world in order to join it.

      In the 2020s, a boorish group of over-the-hill talk radio hosts and their most die-hard hangers on are witnessing the last dregs of humanity squeezed out of the failed revolutionary experiment and have decided “Damn, now is definitely the time to pop over and go golfing.”

      I wonder what the Russian police will say the first time they see Alex Jones light up a fat blunt?

      • andros_rex@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        3 months ago

        Is nose candy legal in Russia? He’ll fit in well with the alcohol abuse - I’m just not sure how kosher all of his uppers will be.

    • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      46·
      3 months ago

      Yeah well, not too illogical a position considering the fall of communism between those decades. This is a trait of Russia, not of conservatives.

  • RegalPotoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    94·
    3 months ago

    … Wasn’t there a story a few months ago about a family that had done exactly that and turns out living in Russia kinda sucks?

    • mosiacmango@lemm.eeEnglish
      145·
      3 months ago

      Haha, yes. They were home schooling, antivaxxers who sold a fully owned farm in Canada because of “the gays,” then hoped a plan to russia with their 8 kids.

      Of course, Russia froze all their funds, forced them all to get vaccinated, then refused go process their visas for months, while they had to live in a one bedroom with a broken sink. The husband posted a video talking about how they missed their washing machine.

      The wife then posted a video about how she hated Russian bureaucracy, which they pulled down quickly. Suddenly, they are talking about howm much they love Russia, how its great that they can’t access their money.

      Now, months later they find out that they need to speak fluent Russian to become citizens, and that it can take years after that. They also can’t own more than 49% of a farm without being citizens, so they found a russian to own the 51%.

      So after all this, they are going to build a house and a barn and raise farm animals, all for some guy they met to actually own, all while not speaking the language and being utterly dependent on strangers.

      Man, that fully owned farmed farm in canada where they were utterly independent and had free healthcare sure sounds like shit in comparison.

  • ours@lemmy.worldEnglish
    861·
    3 months ago

    They can all go and make their own new Russian town. They could call it Jonesgrad or perhaps Jonestown to keep it closer to their American roots.

    Don’t forget to pack up some FlavorAid for those scorching Russian summers.

      • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
        23·
        3 months ago

        Pretty sure they don’t allow new citizens to be dual citizens with the US, and I’m pretty sure there’s a very painful tax due when you try to dump your citizenship.

        Actually, I’m also pretty sure the reason Jones is considering this is those lawsuits and shit.

          • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
            23·
            3 months ago

            Ukrainians are just going to strap drones on the backs of irs special agents.

            And you thought the machinegun drone was the scariest.

    • kautau@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      3 months ago

      Nah, way too much value in Alex’s dumb face. Putin’s goal is and has always been to incite internal conflict in the west. Race, class, gender struggles etc further dividing us are the FSBs bread and butter though obviously on the whole “physical war” thing Russia is struggling. Putin would love for Alex to be a mouthpiece for Russia. Joe Rogan has almost 15 million subscribers, and he would happily host Jones whether he was a Russian mouthpiece or not, and idiots would gobble it up, like they do with Tate, Peterson, etc

  • renrenPDX@lemmy.worldEnglish
    75·
    3 months ago

    Didn’t a conservative family already try living in Russia recently and found out it wasn’t all like a better version of America?

    • Sway@lemmy.worldEnglish
      56·
      3 months ago

      There was a homophobic family from here in Sasktachewan (the Feenstra’s), who sold their family farm and dragged their 8 kids to Russia to escape the “far leftist” and “lgbtq ideology” here in Canada. Guess it didn’t work out too well for them since they had their bank accounts frozen (possibly assets seized) and then proceeded to speak ill of Russia (including they don’t speak English there) only to have to publicly apologize and eat their words.

      • Nurgus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        3 months ago

        I’d laugh but that sounds like 8 kids had their lives ruined by some idiots.

        • Sway@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          3 months ago

          Yeah, I feel horrible for those kids. His wife also at least seems to have at least realized what a mistake they had made. Her husband though, has done nothing but double down on staying in Russia.

      • rottingleaf@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        3 months ago

        Guess it didn’t work out too well for them since they had their bank accounts frozen (possibly assets seized)

        There’s that funny, but sad thing about laws and how not to break them - a lot of it in daily life depends on instinct, like “how not to make your Windows 98 installation hang”. And those instincts, the aesthetics of what you should and shouldn’t do, are very different between USA and Russia.

        Fraud aside.

        and then proceeded to speak ill of Russia (including they don’t speak English there)

        LOL. What did they expect, “traditional values” are usually less demanding in terms of knowing foreign languages.

        I mean, there was some farmer guy on YouTube who actually managed to move to Russia, create a business and all, who also learned Russian on a good level, but that fact alone (learning a new language on a fluent level being an adult) shows him to be a very unusual person. And I don’t remember any “traditional values” being among his reasons.

        to escape the “far leftist” and “lgbtq ideology” here in Canada

        The stronger your country and civilization group are, the harder it is to see past internal discourse towards outside reality.

        So I’m not surprised that Americans and Europeans might often see their daily news as the absolute truth and be hostile to people trying to tell them otherwise. As with, for example, demonized Iran (not that theocracy is good, it’s just that in foreign policy it’s a better country that Russia, Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia, China, …).

        For such people the internal discourse is that Russia is somehow related to their political views. While in reality it’s anything but “traditional” in the American sense.

    • WHYAREWEALLCAPS@fedia.io
      221·
      3 months ago

      Yep. Guarantee every male who is at least semi or partially able bodied who takes him up winds up conscripted and on the front lines.

  • MehBlah@lemmy.worldEnglish
    73·
    3 months ago

    Please idiots, flee to that hellscape. There you might realize how full of shit you all are.

  • zenitsu@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    691·
    3 months ago

    Please do take all the conservative brainlets and build a Gilead so we can all watch it crash and burn while you cope about foreign interference.

    • r00ty@kbin.life
      2·
      3 months ago

      But, I think they should not accept dual nationality. Make them burn their passports at the border!