I did retirement home training and used to think it was a sweet job. Then I got in the business and underestimated how demoralizing it was as they give you the easy elders in training while the others make you, or at least me, really think of the fact the job just amounts to an unkarmic freebie.

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    • landlords
    • lobbyists
    • telemarketers
    • brokers
    • casino work
    • hedgefund work
    • companies that make unnecessary amounts of (and wasteful) plastic
    • door to door salespeople
    • sidewalk salespeople
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    Data brokers. Also, those bug-bounty fuckers, both the buyers and sellers of exploits. They make the internet a worse place.

    Edit: a slight edit on grammar.

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      Hard agree on the data brokers, but what’s bad about bug bounty programs? I’d say it’s a good thing you get a reward if you help make a product more secure, and it helps discourage people from selling zero-days to black hats. Or do you mean black hat bug bounty systems? They are already super illegal

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          Bug bounties refer to specific programs that companies put in place to essentially reward white hat hackers for doing freelance offensive security audits.

          I get what you’re trying to say, but you’re specifically referring to black hat hackers. Referencing bug bounties is muddying your meaning.

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    Cops, landlords, the entire advertising industry, anything to do with the stock exchange, PMCs, lobbyists (and by extension most career politicians)…

    I’m just getting started

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    Search engine optimizer – The entire industry, intentionally and with malice aforethought, exists purely to make it more difficult for search engines to provide quality output to search users.

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    Any job working for a PBM (pharmacy benefit manager). Completely unnecessary third party parasites that drive up health care costs.

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    Politicians. Don’t get me wrong, we do need them, but I strongly oppose the existance of people who never did anything else.

    I believe we’d be better off with a new set of randomly chosen citizen every so often. Kinda like jury duty.

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      Oh hell no. You know how braindead most people are at something relatively simple like driving a car, managing finances, or logical decision making? And then you want to roll the dice and let potentially ‘the average’ citizen to partake in government? This also means you have to be fine with the dumbest motherfucker you have ever come across, making policy decisions.

      Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell naw. Fuck, we have some dense pieces of shit in govt/politics here in the states, but I know that we can do way, way, way fucking worse. Hell. No.

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        Well maybe braindead is still better than professional selfish corrupt assholes bending the system towards them across many decades.

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            We had one guy (Ricky Muir) in Aus who kind of got in accidentally, due to a weird quirk of the voting system that has since been fixed. He was an uneducated bogan, who was mostly just interested in hotted up cars. But he actually took the position seriously and reached out to experts for advice on topics he didn’t know much about. I didn’t agree with his take on a few things (from memory, this was a decade or so ago, I’m an anti-car lefty), but he honestly seemed like he was doing a pretty good job. Way better than 90% of the rest of the more career politicians.

            Most people aren’t that dumb, given the resources…

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            But at least wouldn’t have decades to build up their networks… But those may grow up regardless… Eh, no easy solutions.

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        If you cannot trust in a randomly selected group of people making good decisions, can you trust in any kind of democracy? I, for one, prefer ‘dumb’ people being directly involved instead of having a lying contest every so often to see which actively evil person can get the most ‘dumb’ people behind him.

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          While I can’t argue with your point, it does at least require a small amount of effort to get elected, vs just picking names out of a hat or whatever.

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    Any role at those finance firms that just buy up other companies to eat their profits. What do you provide? Nothing, you take already baked potatoes and make sure all the shredded cheese is scraped off into your gullet and thats it.

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      Not aware of Bill Hicks’ take, but marketing effectively amounts to manipulating people into buying things that they otherwise would not.

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        There’s only 3 kinds of advertising that work on me.

        1. “My business supports [thing I like] financially!” Ok, that’s fair. You donate to them, I purchase from you over competitors.

        2. “Hello, I run [business]. I make sure to patronize [other business] to support [business] because [other business] does quality work. Check them out!” For some reason, this resonates with me. It sounds way more honest.

        3. “Here is a picture of tasty food”. FOOOOOOOD 🤤

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          There is exactly one ad that worked on me. It was a poster for a bottle of Oasis that said “you’re thirsty, we have quotas, let’s help each other out.”

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          The only advertising I want is a list of specs for the product and maybe a video demonstration of it’s capabilities (not a highly edited misleading video like most advertising we see today).

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            I wouldn’t class that as advertising… That’s just product info, so you know what you’re buying.

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              Yea. That’s what advertising should be. What it is is worthless nonsense which is why everyone blocks as much of it as they possibly can.

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          Rebuttal/fact check:

          • they donate 0.0015% of every $10+ purchase you make, on a Shursday, when it’s raining meatballs; additional terms and conditions apply
          • [other company]: “we’ve never heard of them in our lives, but alright I guess?”
          • “here is the food we advertise! and here is the garbage we slap together next to the dumpster out back that we actually serve at our fine establishments!”

          Don’t trust anyone who needs to advertise. If they were actually good products/services, they wouldn’t need to advertise, as word of mouth and reputation does that for you. You don’t see any Rolls-Royce ads on primetime television…

          If you find yourself interested because of advertising, always, always be skeptical of all claims. Don’t just believe, but research, verify.

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        Disagree with the first part. Agree with the second.

        When I’m dictator they’ll be among the first up against the wall.

        Fortunately for them, my lack of ambition and crippling video game addiction ensure I’ll never be dictator over anything more than my two cats.

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    Any position in the for profit medical payment processing profession, it should be single payer through taxes instead.

    Any investment position that exists to leech money out of successful companies instead of providing cash to improve the business. Basically any part of.a vulture capital firm.

    Any pseudo pretend medical profession that has decades without evidence it works like chiropractors. I’m fine with mediums and other charlatans that at least put up a ‘for entertainment purposes only’ sign and don’t have a history of causing injuries to their clientel.

    Anything involving targeted advertising since it relies on scooping up personal data.

    Debt collectors. The businesses took the risk when they loaned money or provided some kind of service on credit. Selling debt to collectors who maliciously lie and guilt people into paying money they don’t really owe or tricking them into paying debt that would disappear after a period of time is horrible. There are no respectable debt collection companies.

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      This is pretty much my list. Middlemen. I wouldn’t say absolutely without value but it’s gotten out of hand.

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        There are some middlemen positions that add value, like many distributors who smooth out the transportation between manufacturing and retail, but there sure are a lot that insert themselves into the supply chain to suck money out without adding anything.

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      Debt collectors. The businesses took the risk when they loaned money or provided some kind of service on credit.

      I don’t use debt collectors any more, but I have a construction company and a few times a year people just decide not to pay for their work. If someone really truly refuses to pay I could take them to small claims court, and I have, but it’s a ton of work and lawyers won’t bother with anything under 10k. I’ve literally had a judge say “so petty” about me taking someone through small claims for a $1200 they’d been dodging for years So some jerk can stiff me for $1500 and I have basically no recourse. I’m not talking about some impoverished person who I took advantage of, these are people with nice homes who make a habit of not paying bills. I’ll work with people who are short on cash and honest.

      Even though debt collectors are 0/3 in the times I’ve used them, it’s at least something to fire off a final ‘fuck you and your credit’

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        Even though debt collectors are 0/3 in the times I’ve used them, it’s at least something to fire off a final ‘fuck you and your credit’

        What a glowing recommendation!