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        This was my experience in the army as well. It was a grab bag of opinions because soldiers come from every part of the country and every walk of life.

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        I’d argue that’s only to get more one-sided as military benefits get cut down further and further. GI bill and medical benefits are huge draws for people, it’s a way out of genuinely shit situations. Hack away too far and people stop signing up.

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          Are benefits getting cut? Honestly. All I ever hear is about trying to get more health coverage, fix the VA, and nearly $1T annual budget.

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            It gets repeatedly threatened; transgender people using medical benefits for affirming surgeries were kicked out under trump IIRC; it wouldn’t surprise me if pregnancy related care (and othe reproductive healthcare such as vasectomies, histerectomies, tubal litigation, etc) also gets axed under a potential trump presidency.

            Education benefits are a sticky one. I genuinely think cutting that would lead to revolt if medical benefits don’t. That’s a huge draw. It gets some people out of a shit situation, and gives them an education to get a good job to avoid going back into that situation.

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              I somehow forgot that the military loses the same freedoms and benefits that we all lose under GOP (religious extremists, deranged fascists, etc).

              It’s ironic that free/subsidized healthcare and education, basic pillars of society that all Americans should enjoy (like most civilized countries), is instead used as some amazing military benefit. I guess we all just need to join the military! I can’t imagine who would even consider joining without these, at least for a generation or two (until forgotten). But as you said, healthcare especially is already being chipped away for many people.

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                Its probably the only institution of the US that the poem inscribed on the statue of liberty actually applies to.

                Most people outside of that description are drawn in by nationalism.

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            All I ever hear is about trying to get more health coverage, fix the VA, and nearly $1T annual budget.

            i wonder why they want to do that

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        My understanding was that officers tend to lean more left, while enlisted men lean right.

        Which makes sense when you think about relative education.

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          In general yeah, but the numbers have shifted pretty hard. In 2016, it was 55/45 gop to dem.

          Just 4 years later, it shift to 41/37 dem to gop. Looks like a decent chunk went non voting, but it did shift the needle.

          While I was in the service, it was majority conservative, but lots of people from lots of places tends to shift that. You get to know people from all over the country, break down biases and learn new things. Looks like nowadays there isn’t that overarching conservative energy on top. Probably a better military to be in now, honestly.

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            Yikes, imagine being in the military and choosing not to vote. That’s kind of unbelievable (rhetorically speaking… unfortunately, its all too believable).

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      Military people are a cross-section of Americans at large, not a single bloc.

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        I only have responses that would be derogatory and biased against the military in general. And while I think one could apply your statement to most groups of people in any context, you do have a point.

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          It’s not intolerant to be intolerant of intolerance. I thought this was settled a few years ago.

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            its not, but the joke applies here, and also it is a good rule of thumb, never make blanket statements unless you’re either shitposting or joking.

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            Intolerance is relative. I don’t tolerate the intolerance of the military. So by your definition, I am not intolerant. That is unless you don’t tolerate my non-intolerance of intolerance. 💋