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    Its use of a single letter app name did, too, and we see how quickly they bent the rules to accommodate the name change.

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      Both Apple and Google benefit from Twitter “nazifying” their users so they vote Repug and pay zero taxes. They’ll never do shit.

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      Exactly my thoughts, the rules are bullshit if they are not equal for everybody.

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      The single letter name exception is basically everything you need to know. It’s all bullshit.

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      I can see making an exception for a single letter name but block is an essential feature of any social network not having it could leave you open to a lawsuit and possibly charges from a stalking murder case

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        Yeah, hopefully. Musk loves pushing boundaries. Eventually you wonder if he pushes too far. As other comments here suggest, though, the one thing he really highlights is the arbitrary nature and general inconsistency of these boundaries. The rules may be written down, but they don’t apply equally. It’s helpful to be reminded of that sometimes.

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    Report it.

    Probably won’t make a difference, but wouldn’t it be great if the app stores removed them for violations?

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      We’ll see. Bullying is a probably a bigger hurdle for them to jump over. The single letter rule was so that people couldn’t game App Store search results.

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      honestly I wouldn’t mind if this was excepted because everyone on there hates the change and he’s just losing more and more of his userbase from it :)

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      On a unrelated note. Had no clue you could have emoji in a user name on Lemmy. Might reroll just for that tbh.

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        Nah just go to your settings and change your display name. My account name is just regular letters as “mojo”. You can change the account name at any time.

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    I know the Fediverse loves a good “Twitter is going down” circle jerk, but at some point, we need to move on. Lemmy and Mastodon are great for me and we should be evangelizing and sharing content with others from these platforms.

    This dope and the orange dope just do and say outrageous things so they stay top of mind. Don’t give them that and you take away their super power.

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      The problem though is that your comment/mindset, and of those like you, who just want to ignore Twitter and just do our own thing here, ignores the point of the social gathering critical mass situation.

      People talk about Twitter because they’re trying to gain intel from others about if they’re moving over or staying, so they can decide if they should stay or move over as well. They’re trying to determine the location of where everyone will gather at.

      And yes, at this point you’re going to say “oh they should move over anyway and we will just grow our content here”. Unfortunately that’s not how human minds work, we’re social creatures, and we like to gather in singular large locations when we want to interact with each other socially.

      There’s a battle being fought right now, the battle for where the social critical gathering point is located/hosted at.

      To ignore that battle, is to lose that battle.

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      I think it’s overlooked how many people just by default have Twitter on their phone and open it while on the toilet or waiting in line etc. It will essentially fill that need for them outside of anything Musk does short of rendering the service unavailable. Reddit used to be the big one for people who were a bit more tech savvy, even Twitter in it’s inception was full of tech journalists, I think that’s the status they’ve lost over the years. If you’re connected to tech scene in some way Fed is fertile ground.

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        It will essentially fill that need for them outside of anything Musk does short of rendering the service unavailable.

        That honestly wouldn’t surprise me at this point. I can’t imagine advertisers are very happy about his terrible leadership. If he makes a few more blunders I think things could go south pretty fast. Especially with threads being a potential alternative that has a lower barrier to entry than something like mastodon, it would be a smoother transition than it would be otherwise.

        Maybe its just wishful thinking, but I do think the death of twitter is a possibility.

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      if only Mastodon would get off their high-horse and address usability issues, like the lack of a like button. Lemmy has it figured out much better by having an “all” tab populated by all the subs users have subbed to.

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          But it’s not a like button. It’s a favorite button. Semantics matter to people switching services. Federation is a hard enough concept without adding cognitive load.

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            I’ve never been on mastadon, is there actually a difference in functionality? or is it just that they call it “favorite” ? (presumably since Twitter’s
            “like” used to be called “favorite” and I’m still a bit mad they changed it to be more Facebook-sounding)

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      It’s the same on Threads. Half the posts are about Twitter and it’s exhausting.

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    Mark my words. He’ll dial this back to only blue checkmarks can block. Dont wanna be harassed by nazis, pay me.

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    Google takes away our ability to block ads. Elon takes away our ability to block content. HP takes away our ability to print with ink we purchased, unless we also pay a subscription. Adobe takes away our ability to own software. Interesting world…

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      Everything you mentioned is simply a subset of “[corporation] takes away our ability to own property” (i.e., trying to usurp our fundamental property right to control our computer). You can also add Apple and John Deere “right to repair” to the list, along with automakers trying to lock capabilities of the machine we already payfor behind paywalled subscriptions. It’s all the same underlying issue.

      Make no mistake: corporations are waging a war on the public’s right to own property, and we’re going to be forcibly returned to serfdom if we don’t start fighting back.

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      Luckily there are alternatives to all of these.

      Duck duck go can replace Google search. Dropbox can replace Google drive. Firefox can replace Chrome.

      Mastodon replaces x / Twitter

      Go buy a brother printer instead of HP

      As far as Adobe, we do have photopea… The rest are harder.

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        Illustrator → Inkscape

        Lightroom → Darktable/CaptureOne/Rawtherapee

        They may need some getting used to if you come from adobe, but they are all very capable.

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          Inkscape doesn’t support typeface tracking which is a problem for me. I use Affinity Designer, which isn’t free, but also isn’t a subscription model.

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            Damn, I’ve been eyeing the Affinity suite for quite a while, but I still couldn’t bring myself to buy it, because they don’t have a Linux version. I do have a Windows on my computer, but it’s only for Rocksmith basically. And I don’t even remember the last time I used it. I don’t wanna buy anything for Windows anymore.

            For now I have to stick to Inkscape, which is amazing in functionality, but I wish it would crash less often when I’m handling large files.

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            Affinity generally is the closest you get to a proper publishing workflow,imho.

            I absolutely love it. And their pricing is more than fair.

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            I can see how that might be a deal breaker for some applications. Good to know that there are alternatives around!

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          Looks like you’re wrong:

          “DuckDuckGo removes carve-out for Microsoft tracking scripts after securing policy change”

          https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/05/duckduckgo-microsoft-tracking-scripts/

          “Most browsers’ default tracking protection focuses on cookie and fingerprinting protections that only restrict third-party tracking scripts after they load in your browser. Unfortunately, that level of protection leaves information like your IP address and other identifiers sent with loading requests vulnerable to profiling. Our 3rd-Party Tracker Loading Protection helps address this vulnerability, by stopping most 3rd-party trackers from loading in the first place, providing significantly more protection,” Weinberg writes in the blog post."

          “Previously, we were limited in how we could apply our 3rd-Party Tracker Loading Protection on Microsoft tracking scripts due to a policy requirement related to our use of Bing as a source for our private search results. We’re glad this is no longer the case. We have not had, and do not have, any similar limitation with any other company.”

          “Microsoft scripts were never embedded in our search engine or apps, which do not track you,” he adds. “Websites insert these scripts for their own purposes, and so they never sent any information to DuckDuckGo."

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            Ahh yes, the legalese that says, “no we toootally weren’t doing the exact oposite of what we said!”

            Sure, they might not tag you with a unique ID that never changes like Google does, but to think Bing is untracked it to fundamentally fail to understand how privacy on the internet works, or doesn’t work.

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        It’ll be interesting to see if Abode turns out to be a worthy alternative or just a stunt.

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        Duck duck go can replace Google

        Eh. We’ll see how long that lasts. All these big firms tend to follow the pack.

        Go buy a brother printer instead of HP

        Honestly, best hardware decision I’ve made in a while.

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          As far as Brother, that appears to be an optional service. Our business has a contracted printer rental and service because the damn things are so expensive to keep running. Our old office printer used to break down all the time under light usage. We had the maintenance tech out at least 1-2 times a month.

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            It’s an optional service for now (hopefully forever), but I can see them go the required route, as so many others have gone, and I wouldn’t even be surprised

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        Never heard of them. I use individual software as needed (GIMP, DarkTable, etc.). I’ll take a look at them, though thanks!

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      Regarding the Adobe part: I see what you’re saying, and I’m uncomfortable with the subscription model too. But to be fair, you never really own software, unless you write it yourself. When you purchase a software license - no matter for what software - you’re purchasing the right to use such software. You aren’t purchasing the software itself. But yes, even that feels better than just a subscription.

      Btw, I’ve read an interesting conversation elsewhere about subscriptions. In some cases it’s not a bad thing at all. If you’re seldom using a software, why would you pay a full boxed price, when you can also just pay the fraction of the price for one month of usage? In my opinion, subscriptions do have their place, but companies should offer a dual pricing model: a boxed one-time price for one version, and a subscription for always the updated version. And it would be up to the customer, which one suits best for their use case. For example, JetBrains does something like this.

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        I agree with you that subscriptions can be useful in making things affordable for people in general but companies instead set the price at a level where it’s barely less expensive and if you pay for a year or two it ends up as more than you would’ve to outright buy the software or at least from what I remember of Photoshop pricing was that

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      The only reason why this dipshit wants to get rid of the block feature is because he’s probably the most blocked person on Twitter. People were sick of his dumb, unfunny brain farts getting pushed into their timeline and blocked him, and his ego can’t handle it.

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        Exaxtly, that guy can’t handle any critisims without starting a childish rant or doing something like this

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        This comment makes me laugh because I’ve seen it (and said it) so many times close to word from word. We’re all in tune with his nonsense and it’s great to be so aligned

        We all say: most blocked person

        Ego

        Twitter instead of the letter

        I can’t wait for his platform to die

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        The abuse of the block feature is a problem yes, I too was a victim of “you’re wrong I’m right shut up blocked”.

        But blocking can be useful too: if you disgrace someone and their posts? you can block them, someone is arrasing you? you can block them. (Arrassing post/comments wise, on private messages block will remain)

        An issue can be fix by not removing the feature itself, like reporting miss information.

        Regarding of the mute, is not exactly the same: if I mute someone, that someone can still comment under my posts, wich is the main reson I used to use the block, for not having imbeciles who thinks I’m an alien in the comment section.

        I think the way twitter block used to work was a sword with two blades, useful in many cases but easily abusible.

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    Elon’s done with people blocking his shit takes. You will be forced to see the bitcoin scams no matter what!!!

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    All these decisions from this guy as head of Twitter really put those videos of SpaceX rocket explosions into a new perspective.

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      I’ve read somewhere that all important decision making for SpaceX and Tesla are out of muskrat’s hands.

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        I’ve heard that SpaceX’s corporate culture revolved around shielding the actual work being done from Elon’s decisions.

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        I was under the impression he had a lot of control over spacex but less so over Tesla. Two google searches may not be the most thorough of research, but I don’t really want to devote more of my time to him.

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          Well SpaceX is unique as almost all of their revenue comes solely from government contracts. When you have a government contract you have to follow the requirements to the letter, or you may not got paid or win the next contract. So he is pretty restricted when it comes to making wild decisions on the fly with SpaceX.

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    Curious if anyone here is still finding a need for X network in their day to day lives?

    I was never big on Twitter so had no trouble leaving when Elon bought.

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      I never got onto twitter in the first place. I got a bit concerned when governments and NGOs started using it as the default shopfront from which they interacted with the public.

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      I mainly use Mastodon now but sadly, my country’s public institutions (such as meteorology and seismology) have no presence in the fediverse. There’s also a particular fandom I follow that mainly interacts om Twitter.

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      I was only lurking but it was usefull to find out why a train is delayed and stuff like that.

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      Same. There’s no shortage of places on the internet where you can display your ignorance or stupidity, and most of them have more functionality than twitter.

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      Need? No

      I do still have an old version of the app installed that I occasionally get interesting notifications from though

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    LOL over there there’s a crazy concentration of toxic people, take out the block?

    Also how all those politicians that block hundreds of people a day can continue to use the platform?

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      oh him and his buddies will still enjoy blocking undesirables. this whole stunt is just so everyone has to read every stupid thought that comes out of his stupid mouth.

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        Its all part of the plan. EM does one outrageous thing each day to constantly stay in the news cycle. The ego must be fed.

        Oscar Wilde described this mentality in The Picture of Dorian Gray

        “There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.”

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      Wait until people and brands start getting spammed with @s full of porn or CSAM and they can’t block the person tweeting it at them.

      I believe you could use block to prevent other people’s shit from showing up in your feeds that other people see. My account is there, pointing at my mastadon account, but I deleted the app from my phone last December, so it doesn’t really matter to me what happens on that site. But, it seems wild that a person can spam your feed with goatse and you can’t do anything about it.

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    I recently blocked him because he is force-feeding me notifications even though I don’t follow him. Blocking him seems to have fixed the issue. Go figure. There’s probably a connection between him wanting to remove the feature and many of us using it as an ad blocker of sorts.

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    Getting rid of the block function is like trying to run email without a spam filter. Elon musk/ Twitter was already out of control. Now they’ve completely lost their minds, even more than they already had.

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      Imagine being excited about publicly announcing the deletion of a critical feature. Have you even seen such a brazen and naked attempt at control from a CEO or corporation? Seriously, name one. Name one company that has done this sort of thing.

      Any other company that would even attempt to remove a critical feature like that would try to sugarcoat it with an apology letter about how it was a tough decision, or have a bulleted list of reasons why they were forced to remove the feature.

      No, not this guy. Just a blind, unfiltered matter-of-fact tweet. No explanation. No apologies. No signs of any remorse.

      Name. One. Company. Who. Has. Done. This.

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        The apology letter is a bug, not a feature. I want more companies to just openly and unapologetically say, “this is what we’re doing, and not everyone is going to like it, but it’s what we believe is the right thing, and we’re doing it.” No one needs more bullshit in their lives. I don’t mind that he isn’t giving me a bullshit apology. I mind that he’s a lunatic and his ideas are stupid.

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          There’s a stark difference between standing up for your decision with detailed justifications and making random crazy changes promoted with a single tweet.

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            Sure, but I stand by the fact that the problem is that the changes are random and crazy, not that he didn’t bullshit his way through an apology we all know he didn’t mean.

            Look at it this way, if Bud Light had responded to the big protest by just putting out a statement that said nothing but “we stand by our decision”, most of us would have considered that to be pretty great.

            Basically I guess I think a bad decision accompanied by a slimy attempt to tell me how it’s actually good or that it was really hard for you is worse than just making a bad decision and saying, “this is what I’m doing”.

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      There’s still mute but that weirdly makes things worse - now you mute someone but they can still reply and interact with your tweets except you can’t see it. So the abusers can just spam the shit out of you, doxing and w/e and you’ll never know.

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        So how blocking works on basically every other platform, including this one? It was only recently that it stopped working that way on reddit even.

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    The App Store rule reads more like the platform itself needs the ability to block users, not the users on the platform. Which X has but they barely use it. I wonder when the german court system will punish X because they have ceased to follow the NetzDG (oversimplified: Ban users who violate the law) and there is no one on the platform to enforce NetzDG.

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      I think Elon is seriously considering withdrawing “X” from most international markets. He’ll reduce X to USA/CAN (maybe UK/AUS) markets and see what he can achieve. Maybe expand later on. So he doesn’t have to bother with 190 jurisdictions on the planet trying to regulate his business.

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        Twitter was already struggling with nearly unfettered access to every internet-connected user. (sans heavily censored countries)

        If Musk cut off 25%-50% of users, the platform, which relies on eyeballs seeing advertisements, would certainly spiral into oblivion.

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      It’s very vaguely worded. Maybe that’s on purpose. It seems like it might satisfy the requirement if the app / service can block a user, but users don’t have an option. But, if the context is that Apple has refused to allow the store to carry any app that didn’t allow its users to block other users, then the precedent is clear.

      The Google one is also unclear. It talks about an in-app system for blocking UGC and users. That seems like it’s talking about preventing UGC from leaving the device, which makes it seem like the “blocking users” part might be more like being able to ban a user from using the app / service.

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    Will this not just be taken to mean X (as the app maintainer) needs to have the ability to block users it considers to be abusive from the app.

    I don’t think this rule is specifying what an individual user of the app must be able to do.

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          The play store one seems to be pretty clear. The rule right above is that there must be an in app solution for reporting abusive behavior, and someone at the platform must review and act on legitimate reports. The highlighted rule, in that context, can only mean users being able to block other users themselves