Disclaimer: New to lemmy and still figuring it out. Sorry if I did everything wrong, please be gentle.
Does anyone have any recommendations for an email app that doesn’t data mine or whatever. I’m in the process of transitioning to the fediverse and purging shitty, morally dubious companies from my life. Currently weening off Google. I have a duckduckgo email relay, but I want to get Google completely off my phone.
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Thunderbird on Desktop, and K9 on mobile
Regarding e-mail provider, I used to recommend proton, but they end-up supporting the current US administration like anyone else, so I would say buy a domain and use the associated e-mail
Thunderbird is perfect in my experience, both for desktop and mobile
+1 for Thunderbird. I’ve deployed it in enterprise environments too.
If you’d rather something more integrated into the OS (non-windows). Kmail and Apple mail work reasonably well.
I use Fastmail with a custom domain for hosting, and FairEmail as my Android app and Thunderbird as my desktop client. Pretty happy with that setup, the apps don’t do any data mining and are fully open source
I like Proton. It’s secure, with end-to-end encryption. It is web-based, just like Google, so accessible anywhere. It has an eye-pleasing design. And it’s based in Europe.
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Proton is not an Email app but mainly an email provider that locks you into its own app.
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Proton does not provide e2e encrypted email outside its own environment (so any mail within proton will be encrypted but not outside - and it’s far harder to do the later due to point one)
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Proton is heavily run by US citizens living in the US - and therefore to some extend fall under the homeland security act and similar laws, including pressure by the current administration.
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Proton claims to be based on Swiss privacy laws. One should be aware that Swiss data protection laws are amongst the weakest in Europe, that service providers can (and mostly are) forced to monitor cross border traffic and that Swiss intelligence services have a long history of unlawful overreach and extremely close cooperation with US services. To what extend Proton is affected by this is unclear, unlike other Swiss based service providers they refuse to comment on this(and they would be allowed to comment, don’t get me wrong)
Just to be aware. I know there are a lot of fans of proton on Lemmy,but there are far better services available nowadays. If the Swiss privacy law does not bother you Infomaniak is an option, alternativly mailbox.org is an option within the GDPR sphere. (Can be bad or good depending on your own situation)
Neither of them is an app, nevertheless,but they work with any major app,e.g. thunderbird.
- Just like Google it has an app and a web interface. Seeing that OP is looking to replace Google and didn’t mention self-hosting, this seems a good fit.
- Proton does provide e2e encryption.
- What does US citizens using it have to do with anything? Proton is not based in the US.
- Your last point is a maybe and remains to be tested in practice. If this is a concern, then take it into account.
For me personally it is more important that my data doesn’t get mined by a big company, and that I use European services as much as possible, and preferably open source. Proton is a good fit for me, and may be for OP.
Proton does not provide e2e encrypted email outside its own environment (so any mail within proton will be encrypted but not outside - and it’s far harder to do the later due to point one)
This is not quite accurate, Proton quite nicely exchanges PGP encrypted mail with people who have PGP but not Proton.
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I was looking at that one, thanks!
k-9 mail is good
“All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less.” http://mutt.org/
