• dactylotheca@suppo.fi
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    6 months ago

    Almost like they are actually an enemy that infiltrated America

    Implying that they’re coming from the outside and aren’t home-grown conservatives

    • otp@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      6 months ago

      The movement could’ve infiltrated from the outside and has co-opted the home-grown conservatives

      • dactylotheca@suppo.fi
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        6 months ago

        Yeah sure, you can tell yourself whatever you need to to keep believing that evil foreigners are the reason conservatives are like this

        • otp@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          6 months ago

          Are you genuinely not familiar with the foreign money that goes into funding far-right movements in the West (and the US in particular)? Or the various international parties who stand to gain from having Trump elected?

          • dactylotheca@suppo.fi
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            edit-2
            6 months ago

            You’re moving the goal posts. How do those prove “conservatives have been co-opted by foreign agents” and not just that conservatives are happy to take funding from other shitty people? You seriously think conservatives wouldn’t be fascist-adjacent if Russia wasn’t paying them?

            • otp@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              6 months ago

              No, I’m not moving the goalposts.

              Your position seems to fall under black-and-white thinking. Either they’re home-grown, OR they’re manipulated through external influences, but not both. I’m saying that both are true. If you also believe that both are true, then we’re in agreement and I don’t think we need to argue about anything.

        • Delusional@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          5 months ago

          Foreign influence or not, they propose bad ideas and lie about everything to justify their bad ideas. Something that would irreparably damage a nation given enough time and they’ve had decades.