It’s a significant reversal from recent history: President Joe Biden is struggling with young voters but performing better than most Democrats with older ones.

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    It’s a failure of the news and social media. If they read about the massive green initiatives, increased corporate and wealth taxes, ending food supply chain greedflation, advancing equity and racial justice, student loan reimbursement, and housing affordability, they may feel differently.

    Instead, they think Trump will “shake up the system.” All he did with his last term was roll back safety and environmental regulations on business, and implement a tax break that expired after four years for the low and middle class but remains intact for the wealthy today.

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      Just because people don’t support Biden doesn’t mean they’re voting for Trump. This is a false dichotomy.

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        Unfortunately, that’s the nature of US elections. Maybe one day it’ll change, but for now these are the only votes that will carry through the Electoral College.

        FWIW I’d love to see us remove the Electoral College, abolish Gerrymandering, and implement ranked-choice voting to introduce more parties to the table.

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          that’s the nature of US elections

          then they arent really democratic are they

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            It’s a representative democracy, not a direct democracy. The founders created the Electoral College to assist in elections due to lack of nationwide information on the candidates. That’s clearly not an issue anymore.

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          All you Blue MAGA folks pretend like their aren’t any candidates with basic human decency running for president. Guess what? I have my choice of three candidates who have at least a bare minimum of human decency. And you have three candidates who support genocide. You make your choice; I’ll make mine.

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            What?

            Are you talking about the primaries? I’m like 99.9999% sure they all dropped out. You’re stuck with Trump and we’re stuck with Biden.

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            I’m not suggesting you make a different choice than the two. I’m stating that it will not affect US elections in their current structure. You do you.

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            Scribbling over that section of the ballot is also a distinct choice you have. That would affect the outcome just as much as voting third party.

            “Blue MAGA.” It’s wild how far-right actors have the self-awareness to write “Blueanon” or “Blue MAGA.” Cool to see their strategies are working and the term is getting picked up with other groups.

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        Unfortunately, there are only TWO choices in the 2024 election - you are either voting for democracy or dictatorship - period

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            Genocide AND human decency VS an end to democracy and just not caring about anyone outside the border short of a migrant caravan.

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              I think you left off the part of the second candidate encouraging more genocide along with ending democracy.

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                  no one is promising to end democracy

                  Didn’t one candidate say they would literally be a dictator…“but only on day one.” I find it hard to trust anyone who ways they’d be a dictator any amount of time, and then stop. Dictatorship and democracy are polar opposites.

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                    with the rise of executive power from executive orders, every president is a dictator say one, rolling back previous administration policy and implementing their own.

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                  Insurrecting against a country because they voted for someone else is a pretty solid promise on its own.

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        Only one of two people is going to win. It’s about as true of a dichotomy as you can get in politics. Your other option is to throw away your vote, which is the same as not voting.

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          There are at least six people running. Three are running on the genocide platform, three are running on the human decency platform. It’s about as true of a dichotomy as you can get in politics.

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            Two of those people have a chance at winning. Four of those people have a chance at splitting the vote enough that the other of the two wins.

            I don’t like that that’s how our system is. It’s fucked. But that is how our system is.

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              He’s like a dude playing the lotto. “Well either I win or I don’t, that’s two possible outcomes… 50/50 chance.”

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              One of them is actively aiding an ongoing genocide. You are shilling for them. I hope you sleep well at night

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                If living in this reality means I’m a shill, then I guess I’m a shill. How much do you want to bet me that someone other than Biden or Trump will win? If you’re willing to bet anything on that, then you’re a damned fool.

                I’m sorry that we don’t live in your fantasy world where we actually do have another choice. It sounds nice there. But since we live in the real world, you have two choices. Biden or Trump. Since Trump is actually a fascist who wants to end democracy in the United States, I’ll be voting for Biden, thanks.