• Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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    7 months ago

    If they could replace project managers that would be nice. In theory it is an important job, but in practice it’s just done by someone’s mate who was most productive when they don’t actually turn up.

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      7 months ago

      The Paranoia RPG has a very realistic way of determining who gets to be the leader of a group. First, you pick who’ll do what kind of job (electronics, brute force, etc). Whoever didn’t get picked becomes the leader, as that person is too dumb to do anything useful.

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        7 months ago

        Yes that’s quite a funny and satirical way of doing it but it’s probably not actually the best way in real life.

        I think Boeing have proven this quite nicely for everyone, the company was much better off when they had actual engineers in charge. When they got corporate paper pushes everything went downhill.

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          7 months ago

          I have been on enough projects where engineers were in charge that went to hell to know that isnt always a solution. And yes I am an engineer.

          One of the projects I am on now the main lead is full PE civil and its a manmade clusterfuck well behind schedule, overbudget, and several corporate bridges burned. Haven’t even started digging yet.

          By far the very biggest cluster fuck I was ever on was run by a Chemical Engineer. A 40 million dollar disaster that never should have been even considered.

          Being good at technical problems (which frankly most of us aren’t) doesn’t mean you know how to do anything else.

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      7 months ago

      I swear people don’t know the difference between a good project manager and a bad one, or no one.

      Everyone on here is on about how the.board has no idea what the bottom rungs of the ladder do and are all “haha they are so stupid they think we do nothing”. Then in the next sentence say they don’t know what the board does and that they just do nothing.