I just don’t see how the far right can rise or how they can win. The odds are so stacked against them. Is this something to actually be worried about ?

The reason I ask this is because I am a leftist and if your using lemmy I am going to assume you are to. I feel like this “the far right is rising” narrative is an attempt by the neo liberal establishment to trick class focused leftist into supporting the status quo as a bulwark against a far right rise.

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    8 months ago

    I keep having people tell me about far right wins, I have one response

    But what did that do though ?

    You mentioned Trump, But what did that do though ? He lost in 2020 and didn’t become a dictator like everyone said he would, he didn’t deport anybody he didn’t build a wall he didn’t start any new wars.Nothing changed.

    you mentioned Brexit, But what did that do though ? Immigration to the UK (which was the big issue that brexit supporters cared about) has only increased and the UK still follows the same EUCHR laws that stop them from turning away asylum seekers or deporting people to unsafe countries.

    Bolsenaro ? But what did that do though ? He lost and has only made the Brazilian left more powerful.

    I will rattle off some more examples of far right wins

    The election of Giorgi Meloni in Italy, But what did that do though ? Immigration has only gone up and nothing has changed.

    Gert Wilders In the Netherlands, But what did that do though ? Same story as Meloni immigration hasn’t changed, LGBT+ hasn’t changed nothing has changed.

    The reason why nothing changed circles back to the point of this post. The reason nothing changed is because the elite capitalist don’t want anything to change. They don’t for example immigration to be reduced because it means less workers and less consumers. Trump,Bolsenaro,Wilders and Meloni don’t matter it is the Bourgeois that matter. They have all the power. Getting worked up over these “far right victories” is needless anguish as they mea nothing

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      8 months ago

      I assume this is probably not in good faith, but answering anyway for a reminder to others

      From just trump and the US alone:

      There was the child sepeation policy

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_administration_family_separation_policy

      His appointments to the Supreme Court has led to abortion being banned in 14 different states across the US

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2023/nov/10/state-abortion-laws-us

      Gender affirming care is now much restricted in a number of US states with constant threats at larger bans of all care

      And so much more

      In the UK, the right wing government has helped o underfund the NHS and make service worse

      https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/04/nhs-funding-faces-biggest-real-terms-cuts-since-1970s-warns-ifs

      There’s a lot of damage that can be done. Just because it may not be as visible to one person, doesn’t mean it does not exist

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      8 months ago

      I can’t answer all of your questions, but with Trump I can answer them: One amazing example is he helped overturn roe v wade. He was able to assign 3 of the 9 justices of the supreme Court which allowed them to basically help make abortion illegal in some states.

      He caused the longest government shutdown in US history for what small amount of money, that had already been offered by Democrats.

      He incited a the first real insurrection in US history (even the south didnt try to take over the US, just suceed from the union)

      There’s are just some examples of the problems cuased by Trump…

      Brexit has also caused extensive harm to the UK but I’ll let others expand on that

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      7 months ago

      “Remember Y2K and all the chaos that was supposed to happen? Computer nerds scared everybody into updating everything and make it ‘y2k proof’ or whatever and then it was a whole nothing burger.”

      “Remember the hole in the ozone layer? Scientists made us ban CFC’s like we were going to die of skin cancer any day now and then nothing bad at all happened.”