Breaking news: in one of the most productive countries / economies in the entire history of humanity, the majority of people creating that productivity do not get to enjoy the rewards of that productivity.

same as it ever was.

  • lightnegative@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    So you still live paycheck to paycheck, except now you have to trust someone else to negotiate on your behalf instead of negotiating yourself

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      If one person quits they shrug and hire some other shmuck. If everyone quits, they have a problem. Good luck negotiating that way.

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        11 months ago

        I guess it depends on the industry. Replaceable production line workers following processes that haven’t been automated yet are different from say engineers designing the production line

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          Plenty of engineers get abused by their employers too it’s super naive to think otherwise. And it’s going to get worse and worse and worse as time goes on that’s the undebatable history of capitalism.

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          Engineers designing production lines absolutely get fucked over with horrible working conditions. Unions benefit every single position workers fill.

          I guarantee you’ve never known an Engineer in manufacturing.

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          11 months ago

          LoL what a shit take of thinking you are special because you are currently being treated nice.

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          11 months ago

          If an engineer is living paycheck to paycheck it’s their fault, and very weird, since they’re generally decent at math.

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      11 months ago

      Negotiating collectively is the only way to negotiate with a Capitalist. Individually, you are a replaceable cog, collectively you’re the machine.

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      11 months ago

      If you’re living paycheck to paycheck it stands to reason that your negotiating position isn’t very good.

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      11 months ago

      negotiating yourself

      Collective action is the only way to get even remotely close to a fair wage.