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    Do you listen to yourself? Hamas uses human shields, so you want to murder all the hostages? Just pre-emptively murder them all. That way Hamas can’t use them, right?

    No thought beyond mass murder, which is what Hamas wants, because the more wanton murder that the Israelis engage in, the more recruits Hamas gets.

    And then there’s the fact that Hamas has been propped up by Israel, funded by Israel.

    https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Netanyahu-Money-to-Hamas-part-of-strategy-to-keep-Palestinians-divided-583082

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        See, that’s the problem, you want to fight. Israel wants the fight, because the n they can justify more ethnic cleansing.

        To deal with Hamas, you have to deal with the root causes of Hamas.

        You have to defuse the justified anger of the Palestinian people, stop the settlers, put many of them in jail for the crimes they’ve committed, put many Israeli leaders in jail for the crimes they too have committed, and then put the leaders of Hamas in jail.

        That’s the starting point.

        Give all the Palestinians citizenship, and the protections that come with it.

        Side note, did you know that the vast majority of Palestinians don’t have citizenship of any country, despite being born in the area? The area their grandparents were born in? Their great-great-to-the-uncounted generation grandparents?

        Yeah, give all Palestinians full citizenship. That right there would diffuse a lot of the anger. And then you can work on dismantling Hamas as a police matter, and not as a military target.

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          See, that’s the problem, you want to fight. Israel wants the fight, because the n they can justify more ethnic cleansing. I

          Let’s see how far into the BS you can go. So, it didn’t have anything to do with the butchery of 10/07?

          As far as the other stuff is concerned, after the war there will be changes. Israel doesn’t want occupation. So Palestinians and the world will have to figure it out.

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            Israel doesn’t want an occupation? What the fuck are they doing in the West Bank then? That’s a full military occupation.

            But no. You’re right. Israel seems to want to kill everyone in Gaza, or maybe just force the survivors to live in an even more cramped concentration camp.

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            What about the butchery of bombing the Palestinian embassy killing 91 civilians.

            Oh yeah that was Israel forcing they’re way into mandatory Palestine only to start a campaign of civilian bombing, and outright murder and torture.

            If we’re playing the “but what about” game we have something like 3000 years and hundreds of thousands if not millions of casualties.

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        With a multi billion dollar military that trains ground troops for that exact situation, you know like a functioning military rather than stormtroopers.

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            I don’t need to dipshit, you say I’m wrong prove it to be.

            semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agi The burden of proof lays with the accuser.

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                Get fucked crybaby, the fact that the usual solution to hostage taking isn’t “shoot them both in the fucking face” anywhere else in the world it cannot logically be the only solution but perhaps Israels final solution for the Palestinian “problem”.

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                  That is your read and obviously you have a lot of criticism but no idea what you are talking about. Good luck in life. You’ll need it.

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                    It’s not my opinion or my read, 10k dead half of which are children illustrates the blatantly fucking obvious.

                    Fall off a cliff bud, we need it.