• Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    67
    ·
    1 year ago

    Churchill was a racist idiot and that’s still a dumb quote.

    Democracy is a plane with 20 people on it. Nine vote not to crash it and eleven vote to fly it into a mountain, and that means everyone dies because democracy

    • Bipta@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      50
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      So instead you choose authoritarianism: 20 people on a plan and one of them shoots the pilot, takes over, and crashes it. Everyone dies.

      • PugJesus@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        30
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        Yeah, the problems with democracy are rarely solved by less democracy. It just turns into “Instead of many idiots voting to do something stupid, one idiot votes to do something stupid.”

      • Candelestine@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        8
        ·
        1 year ago

        Think bigger. Fly the plane in circles, and demand the people give you whatever you want to occasionally land it and bring some supplies onboard.

        Just don’t die of old age.

      • Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        25
        ·
        1 year ago

        Love how you think that not only are there only two options, but that democracy isn’t also authoritarian. It’s just mob rule instead of an individual.

        • TaTTe@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          That’s… precisely why the original quote said “democracy is the worst form of government”. It has fundamental flaws. But it’s still the better than everything else.

    • sailingbythelee@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      34
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Churchill’s point is that stupid things can still happen in democracies, but no one has come up with a better alternative. What would you suggest as the better alternative? If you don’t have one, then you just helped prove Churchill’s point!

    • 1337@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      It’s more like,

      • 2 hijackers vote to crash
      • 1 votes with the hijackers because they share a hometown
      • 2 vote no
      • another 2 vote strong no
      • the other 12 don’t participate because they don’t want to get too political (we have 40% voter turnout where I live)

      and I’ve been through enough elections to see how we are all heading to a crash, every time.

    • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      1 year ago

      But if we made you running everything it would be perfect.

      That’s the thing with anti-democracy sentiment the people who advocate for it always assume they, or someone who agrees with them on everything, is going to run things. No one imagines themselves in a slave society being a slave.

    • Blackmist@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      No, nine vote to crash it, seven vote to go left and four vote to go right.

      Crashing it is! Thanks, first past the post voting system.