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    Well, some of the released hostages report that while the experience is traumatizing, they were treated relatively well once held hostage. Of course, the released hostages were a) mostly elderly citizen and b) the ones Hamas chose to release, so there might be a selection bias. But the treatment of surviving hostages might not be as bad as initially feared. Let’s hope they make it out soon and safely.

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      That old woman was beaten and robbed and kidnapped. She called the experience hell. You have a funny definition of treating her well.

      Iirc, those people who were released worked on Palestinian causes.

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        With an emphasis on once held hostage. People were killed and mutilated during the kidnappings, the old lady who was later released was beaten with sticks and struggled to breathe during the motorcycle ride.

        She said they were kept in clean rooms, slept on mattresses, and received medical attention. They received white cheese and cucumber for eating, and Hamas told them “We believe in the Quran: We’re not going to hurt you”. The former hostage, Oded, noted that they took care of even the smallest detail, and her son sad that “If everybody in there is in the same situation, there is room for optimism”.

        This doesn’t justify any of the actions of the terrorist attack. Obviously the situation is awful. But there is a good chance the hostages are still allright, which is a glimmer of hope in an awful situation assuming you have any piece of your humanity still intact.

        Furthermore, I don’t believe my original post was that unclear, and you’ve clearly read the reporting. You knew exactly what I was referring to, and you’re still out there wasting people’s time trying to fuel hate. As if there’s not enough of that already. Fuck off.

        https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-24/ty-article/.premium/85-year-old-israeli-grandmother-recounts-hamas-captivity-says-government-deserted-us/0000018b-615d-d312-a1fb-f77f9aea0000
        https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/24/freed-israeli-hostage-hamas-attack-00123323

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          With an emphasis on once held hostage.

          Oh okay so if we ignore the bad, brutal, inhumane parts she was treated well. Got to set those goal posts very carefully to make her treatment seem acceptable.

          “Besides that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?”

          you’re still out there wasting people’s time trying to fuel hate.

          Ah yes, clearly it’s my reactions to this fueling hate and not, you know all the murders. Maybe if I portrayed this old woman being kidnapped and beaten as humane it would calm things down? Is that what you’re doing?

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            I mean there is a huge gap between being tortured and raped, and getting decent food and medical attention. So yeah, in the context of being a fucking war hostage, seems like they were treated fairly decently.

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              Hamas should get a gold star for only beating and robbing this woman and not raping and torturing her?

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                no, but the claim that Shani is now free from all the rape and violence is simply not accurate and fuels hatred unnecessarily.

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            What are you talking about? This entire comment chain is from someone talking about how hostages may be getting treated.

            If anyone is moving goalposts, it’s you. Lol.