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    If the app is defective, then that’s on the Trump admin for using it to communicate sensitive information.

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      Yeah, it is defective… or at least not up to the task of security for classified information… not to mention not compliant with record keeping laws, that’s the whole fricking point.

      The big play they are trying is to put the emphasis of the fail on adding the journalist… that wasn’t the crime, it was a demonstration of why it is a crime, and it is how he got caught. Using signal for war/attack plans was the crime.

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          Well that too, but sadly we are at the point where that is normal and goes back several administrations. The signal usage for military communications reaching public knowledge is something unique to this situation (of which i won’t fully discount the possibility that it may indeed have started prior to this administration)

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          When someone fires rockets at you, you should either give them what they want so they stop or ignore it.

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            I don’t know why you’re being downvoted.

            My neighbor throws rocks at my house because he wants me to move my fence and give him an extra 6" of backyard. I just ignore him and nothing bad has happened beyond needing to replace my bathroom window twice.

            Ignore or give them what they want has worked well for me.

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              I suspect some downvoted because they thought I was being sarcastic, while others downvoted because they thought I was being genuine.

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        The app itself and its protocol are very secure. It’s no wonder WhatsApp chose to implement it instead of baking their own. The issue here is that Signal is not designed to be used for top secret stuff, where adversaries with practically unlimited resources will specifically target your device. There’s no auditing features, there’s no safeguard if you add a group member by mistake, …

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        Evidence is out there in the papers and the internet for everyone to see, next they deny the report and the texts are real despite previously acknowledging them and claiming that nothing of importance was discussed.

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    That didn’t happen.

    And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.

    And if it was, that’s not a big deal.

    And if it is, that’s not my fault. <- You are here

    And if it was, I didn’t mean it.

    And if I did, you deserved it.

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      You fool he’s playing two of these steps at once. Both step 4 and step 1. Still claiming it was a “witch hunt” while also making it not his fault. 100 quadtrabillion IQ (a very object way to measure intellect) move you liberal/LEFTIST/sjw wokie. Check mate, and GOOOOOOOOAAALLL. Hahahaha.

      I’m so sorry.

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          I obviously only forgot because the DEI hire I hired the last time he was president didn’t sit behind me reminding me, which is Joe Biden’s fault. Whoever the 45th president was obviously screwed up the deal.

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      In this case Trump doesn’t use computers, doesn’t know how to use a smartphone, probably doesn’t know what an app is or what open source means or what end-to-end encryption means. So basically be has no conceptual basis to even form a passable understanding of what this scandal is about, let alone form a coherent opinion, and he probably lost patience early on when someone tried to explain it to him.

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    A witch hunt is when you don’t know for sure if anyone did anything wrong. Not when you have physical evidence of exactly who did exactly what wrong. That’s just a “case” then.

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      The defect he’s searching for is a back door. Not gonna happen. Everyone, please use and support Signal, says the guy who has been getting people on Signal since Snowden rec’d it in 2015 (https://www.tomshardware.com/news/edward-snowden-favorite-security-tools,30507.html). I had to look it up.

      The other tools in this recommendation: Tor OTR TAILS Qubes OS

      I’ll leave it to others to comment on the viability of the rest, and Signal has gotten an enormous ‘signal boost’ from Signalgate, so I’ll count that as a win.

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        I’ve used QubesOS, Tails and Tor all extensively and they are all incredible. based on what I’ve seen, it’s best not to use Tor on its own unless you’re entirely sure of how you plan to use it - reason being that misconfiguring it can deanonymize you, so it’s best to stick with Tails for sensitive Tor activities and the Tor Browser for less sensitive stuff - Tails forces the whole system to interface with the internet via the Tor network so you don’t leak network traffic onto the clearnet when you’re doing silly business.

        also a little shout out to Orbot which is a Tor router app for Android that will allow you to connect your whole phone over the Tor network (or just a single app). This is huge especially if you’re being censored in another country and want to use Signal or another app that doesn’t support Tor already.

        happy routing :D

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      This is a reasonable reply to a nonsense statement. Signal is plenty secure for us and whatever we need to do with it. It is not secure enough, nor authorized, for classified information.

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          No, but it still isn’t secure enough for classified information. The protocol is probably fine, but the weak point is the device. And the device can be compromised. Devices rated for classified systems never touch the public internet which makes them significantly less susceptible to being compromised.

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    If it could be broken so easily then WTF is your administration using it in the first place, dumbass.

    Deny, deflect, diffuse. That’s all they do. Lie, lie, lie. Anything to avoid any kind of accountability.

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      They want an encrypted comms channel they can invite any of their oligarch friends into. There is no encryption strong enough to solve the problem with this premise.

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    Pentagon-wide advisory sent to staffers on March 18 — less than a week before the screwup went public — explicitly warned against using Signal for any sharing of information, classified or not.

    The advisory claimed that a “vulnerability has been identified in the Signal messenger application,” and that Russian hacking groups were “targeting Signal Messenger to spy on persons of interest” (a Signal spokesperson told NPR that the company wasn’t “aware of any vulnerabilities or supposed ones that we haven’t addressed publicly.”)

    https://futurism.com/the-byte/pentagon-issued-warning-signal-messaging