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  • dryfter@lemm.ee
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    3 days ago

    I’m indifferent on unsold Teslas being targeted, not like law exists in this country anymore. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    I am absolutely 100% fucking appalled that people would be ok with doxing Tesla owners. These are real people with families who now have to fear for their safety because they thought it was cool technology when they bought the car. They also may not be able to easily afford to sell the car and buy a new or used one right away.

    This does nothing good for anyone and hurts any resistance movement and sadly makes any resistance look like it lacks empathy for fellow human beings just like how what the right is doing shows they lack empathy.

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      3 days ago

      Eh, I think most people would agree with you here but no one would go out of their way to stop or even denounce this cause that’s at the very bottom of the list of issues.

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        Sure, but the public perception was completely different. Tesla was a leftist political statement. Electric cars? Saving the climate? What a ridiculous idea only libs would subscribe to, electric cars will never work. Teslas were keyed by coal-rolling right wingers.

        The opinion went a total 180°, and many people still own Teslas from that time. I have no sympathy for e.g. Cybertruck owners, but many Tesla owners were buying them years ago, when they were seen as tech for progressives that care about the environment.

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          No. Teslas were always sold by an unstable lunatic. They were never some leftist statement. Even when EVe were hitting their stride other brands are much better and don’t have wanna be fascists leading the company.

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      And just like that we’re now all focused on the couple of (quite frankly) idiots that are burning consumers’ Teslas instead of the unsold ones at dealerships. Again. Just like every discussion of a protest is not about the tens of thousands of people protesting but about the 10 people looting.

      Looks like the attempt to control the narrative is working as expected.

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        You shouldn’t be ok with doxing people even if they are not good people.

        It’s an all or nothing standpoint. If you are fine with people getting doxxed for some reason you believe to be evil, then you inadvertently say that doxxing as a whole is fine. Eventually someone innocent is going to get doxxed, whether it be by accident (no such list of doxxed people is 100% accurate) or by someone with different viewpoints than you.

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          anyone that makes goose and gander comparisons applying to both humans and sociopaths is woefully naive.

          it’s ok when the good guys do it. we get all the exceptions, they get none. it’s a war. they’re not humans anymore. if we want to win, we have to see it that way. there is no amount of cruelty we can inflict on our enemies that will cause greater suffering than what happens if they win.

          no fucking mercy. guns.

        • lumony@lemmings.world
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          You shouldn’t be ok with doxing people even if they are not good people.

          What if they’re pedophiles?

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          I don’t think you’ve looked at the website. The only individuals on there are Elon musk and cash Patel

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      3 days ago

      I don’t care because they waste their money on bullshit status symbols while kids go hungry. Their cars literally cost more than my house.

      They can honestly get fucked and I hope a lot worse comes to them until they start doing their part to reduce the disparity in wealth.

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        There’s a used car lot across the street from my neighborhood with like 3 or 4 Model 3s under $16k.

        The Model 3 has been around long enough and priced low enough for it to be in the realm of “boring option of a car”, no more a status symbol than a Toyota Camry.

    • Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world
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      the ends justify the means. if we fail at this stage, dystopia will reign over western civilization for generations to come. the cruelest things we do to defeat the fascists pale in comparison to the damage they will do if they are allowed to take over.

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        Assuming for one moment that the ends really do justify the means, how is burning somebody’s car going to stop the rise of fascism?

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              it’s a total rejection of musk. it will force tesla to oust him. the car owners are just pawns in a greater war against the fascists. sorry/not sorry.

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                Ok, say this all succeeds and Musk is thrown out of Tesla. What next? He’ll still be the a billionaire with a US President as a puppet and complete “authority” to continue gutting the federal government.

                I’m usually really good at being able to be objective and see both sides of an issue. I just can’t do that with this. It’s equivalent to a gang spraying and praying and killing innocent bystanders and saying “Oh well, it was for the cause”. Like how is this any better than the right being ok with making millions of poor people homeless and hungry?

                • Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world
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                  honestly? i don’t think i even care at this point. we’re a cancer. i’m in favor of just about anything that reduces the global population by half without destroying the environment or harming innocent animals.

                  rwandan style genocide seems like exactly what we deserve. i’d rather see the left pull it off than the right.