I loved Reddit for what it is, but nothing made me back out of a post faster than seeing the top 3 parent threads as a regurgitation of the same inside jokes, pun-chains, and so on.

    • solstice@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      It really is fascinating though, having a front row seat to what really is a massive tectonic shift in the history of the internet. Real curious to see how this all plays out. I’ve been online since the early 90’s so I’ve seen tons come and go: AOL, yahoo, slashdot, livejournal, myspace, digg, etc, and this one feels different for some reason, but maybe its just me.

      • minimar@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        I think it feels different because it’s not website B rolling in as a replacement for website A. It’s an entire new system for social media, so the way you understand and use it has to shift a bit. I find it exciting, a lot more than if we just shifted to a generic centralised reddit alternative.

        • druppel@feddit.nlEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          Web 1: fragmentation Web 2: centralizatiom Web 3: decentralization Web 4: quantum entanglement Web 5: …

  • NabiscoShredderWheat@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyzEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    I get what you’re saying, but communities that spend time together will form their inside jokes, their way of doing things, etc. If you don’t like it you don’t have to participate. I say this with the upmost respect, but you need to get over yourself. Nobody is forcing you into a community.

    • bmoney@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      totes agree on that ish

      the dumb shit is what makes it feel like a community or friends getting together. if its not that its a college message board for assignments

      • _number8_@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        yeah, it’s almost a bit intimidating to post here now the fun has settled. you have to think of a whole thought about a somewhat serious topic and sometimes that’s just…ugh

        • bmoney@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          ya that hype will die down too

          im totally a filthy casual and get the dislike but if lemmy survives and thrives, it will be with the help of shitposters

          not everything has to be serious

          • redditcandoone@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            Thank god. I enjoyed using reddit because I used to shitpost irl and have had to tone it down with work so I need an outlet somewhere…

  • UnspecificGravity@lemmy.caEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    Hopefully you can find some social media platform that doesn’t have any other people on it so that you can live in peace from the dumb shit that other people post.

  • TCGM@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    That’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it, but nothing will kill adoption rates harder than doing the whole early Mastodon thing of “you should change how you behave here”

  • zkxs@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    you have my updoot

    I jest. Ultimately without some sort of mechanic that disincentivizes noisy, low-effort joke comments there’s not going to be some sort of magical cultural shift. I’m just arriving, but from what I’m seeing Lemmy doesn’t have any sort of design that will skew comments towards actual discussion and away from jokes/noise in any meaningful way.

    • kakes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      The way it is right now, we don’t have total “karma”, which I imagine helps to at least suppress the purely karma-farming spam. That said, there’s no real reason to think it won’t be added here eventually.

        • Chais@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          Never really got the point of Karma to begin with. All it really does is measure how well you match the tone of any particular echo chamber.

    • railsdev@programming.devEnglish
      21·
      1 year ago

      I wonder if this will come down to client apps (though “native” instance-level integration would be nice).

      Mlem currently has keyword filters but it would be nice to filter comments out that equal a filter.

      For example, I can’t stand comments that just say “this” so in theory I would set a filter for any comment that’s just equal to “this” right? But then I’d be filtering out quite a lot of “valid” comments.

      • orsetto@beehaw.orgEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        But you could filter out comments containing only “this” or variations with exclamations points and such

    • GhostCowboy76@lemmy.worldEnglish
      0·
      1 year ago

      I am still learning Lemmy, but I agree with you from what I am seeing. There is no “karma farming” here right? So the motivation is mostly people who want to engage?

      • zkxs@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        There’s no total karma for a user yet, yes. So the perverse incentive to make number go up at all costs isn’t quite as wild as it is in Reddit.

        As I wander around Lemmy more I’m also noticing that there’s a lot of opportunity for instances to have their own subcultures, which goes against the “It doesn’t matter which Lemmy instance you use” advice I’ve seen in a couple places. It definitely seems prudent to choose an instance that has an admin team and/or a theme you like, because instance-local content is going to be the easiest to find. The instance I chose is decently small and chill, but I’ve seen some other instances with a big focus on memes. To each their own!

  • SlowNoPoPo@lemm.eeEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    Don’t expect human nature to change just because some ceo of a different company decided to be a greedy dick, honestly

  • RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    1 year ago

    So you’re saying we should encourage people to not comment and participate because you personally don’t enjoy something?

    I know I’m being a bit over the top with the wording there but lets really think about it for a moment. Participation is engagement. And if we want Lemmy and by extension Lemmy.World to grow its what we need.

    I upvoted you. Its a valid discussion to have. I just personally don’t think its something we should be worried about in general.

    • TWeaK@lemmy.mlEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      Let Lemmy grow. Growth and low effort pun threads is not what killed reddit. Corporate interference and shit stirring controversy spewing algorithms in the name of “user engagement” is what drove reddit down the drain.

      • Shadywack@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        1 year ago

        This right here. Puns aren’t what was bad, it was the endless doomscrolling habit and continuous outrage going on that was. All the Rexxitors are going to see a serious uptick in their mental health. The puns were a coping mechanism, I think here that defensive reaction will be minimized.

        • NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.orgEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          No the endlessly repetitive puns were bad. They weren’t the only things, but they were absolutely bad.

          • johnthebeboptist@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            Exactly. Like, I get that people want to have fun and all and I’m all for it even if it’s not my thing, but any relevant discussion was constantly drowned out by the pun chains and copypasted shit to the point that it was fairly obviously often just bots, but as long as a few people have their fun fuck the discussion right? Right… but I/you/we gotta be less cynical, as was said above the lemmy algo is apparently better with this stuff. So I’m at least going to try to be a little hopeful.

            • NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.orgEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              Yea the main reason I hated it was because I had to fuckin dig through a thread if I wanted to find a serious comment about whatever was posted. It wasn’t so much that low effort puns and shit were common, it was that they drowned almost everything else out in a lot of subs. Like even /r/science was turning into a memefest at the end.

              I guess we’ll see how things develope here

  • Veritrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    Lemmy reminds me of old school BBS where actual discussion happened. I know it’s been a shift for me where I actually have to think about a response and hold a discussion instead of just following the patterns. Not that I don’t appreciate rote comments, it’s nice to expect a joke and have that delivered on. Not every thread though.

  • gary@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    Lemmy will likely have its own “the narwhal bacons at midnight” phase.

    It’ll interesting to see what it is…and then almost immediately tiresome.

  • angrylittlekitty@lemmy.oneEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    the other thing to consider with low effort, duplication of memes is the server overhead. one thing to burn corporate coffers with the same people of walmart and cat tropes but this kind of stuff burns server and storage resources.

    for a corporate entity looking to make billions off our data that’s the cost of doing business – but for lemmy server admins it’s a truly personal cost.

    imo we should be respectful of our “homes” and try not to trash them with low value content.