At this point it’s literally a war crime. Claim denial and accidents all they wanted before, but if the sailors are outright acknowledging it was intentional to attack civilian infrastructure, it’s by definition a war crime
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/gciv-1949?activeTab=1949GCs-APs-and-commentaries
I don’t think it’s officially a war. So it’s a regular crime and I think that’s also better, because the victim country can react more quickly and more powerful.
Russia has been using the list of war crimes as a checklist of things to do for 3 years
War crimes don’t matter anymore. Russia does them, Israel does them, the US does them. There is no justice.
Does Germany do them any more? How about Ireland?
Germany has supported Israel with weapons whilst knowing they were committing a Genocide, so the answer for Germany is probably “Yes”, at least as an accomplice.
The answer for the Republic Of Ireland is as far as I know “No”.
The head of the investigation, Risto Lohi of the National Bureau of Investigation, told Reuters the vessel was threatening to cut a second power cable, Estlink1, and the BalticConnector gas pipe between Finland and Estonia at the time it was seized.
“Lohi” is Finnish for “salmon”. That’s right. Inspector Salmon is in charge of this investigation. Thankyou, Finland.
This Lovely Bones sequel is weird
Oh my gosh people Finland isn’t even real. They’re is no landmass. FIN-LAND. It’s all fish! They’re even rubbing our faces in it with these stupid names.
Shhh! Don’t give us away!
They are russian flagged vessels right? What does that mean in terms of ability to do things about them?
I assume you can’t legally just board/sink them, even with cause?
Pay them to sabotage the infrastructure of Russia and its allies. Plainly all this crew wants is money.
Lock them up.
I wonder if NATO is going to try and enforce a blockade where any ship travelling through the area of cables must be escorted.
I hope so. And bill the “ghost fleet” for any costs.
“travel bans”? huh. you’d think the finish would be aware if russia wants their people back, and those people are free to roam the streets, they’re gonna come and get em. these fuckers should be in jail, safely behind bars until trial.
They are still on the ship, and cannot get to land because of the lack of visas.
Hang the captain and first mate, take the oil, sink the ship. This is how we’ve always dealt with pirates.
An extremely public trial would be more effective.
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You definitely could. A hanging lasts less than a day. A trial could stay in the Overton window for much longer.
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Remember these are not pirates they are crew being told what to do with families back in Mother Russia and a great many pressures on them. Better a trial with all the details spewing forth and Russia blaming birdstrike and threatening armageddon over a cable.
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Scrap the ship, don’t sink it. We have more than enough waste on the bottom of the various oceans and seas as is.
You can responsibly strip and scuttle large vessels to help facilitate reef development
Fair enough, but that’s still a form of scrapping as opposed to outright immediate sinking of the vessel. Far too often vessles are sunk, mostly intact, and that is causing countless amounts of pollution in our waterways.
You are really bad at pirate
But you have heard of me.
In some civilized parts of the world, we’ve renounced death penalty some time ago and only the far-right wants it back.
“They go low, we go high!”
If not wanting state sanctioned killings is your “high”, you might have other problems.
What is your “high”?
Not killing people, it seems.
Aim it at the port of St Petersburg and put it on full power. Let them deal with it
The captain is Georgian and the crew is Georgian and Indian according to the article, why saint Petersburg?
Because its literally Russian black fleet ship
Steal some of the oil. Replace it at correct stoichiometric ratio with ammonium nitrate or some other powerful oxidiser. Attach a detonator and tracking device to the ship. Don’t tell the crew. Let the crew go free. When the ship reaches its destination, detonate. Halifax explosion, round two.
Fuck you, whoever would buy Russian oil.
I should maybe add that I don’t think this is actually a good idea. I can just see that it’s scientifically possible, and I enjoy constructing scenarios like this.
But to those who are riding Putin’s dick, just know that these are the things the West could do, but chooses not to. And the fuck you to all buyers of Russian oil still stands. I don’t care how poor they are.
“…these are the things the West could do, but chooses not to.” Yeah, the West does whatever TF it’s done in Afghanistan, Iraq, West Asia, whatever France has done in Africa. “fuck you to all buyers of Russian oil” You mean like the US and EU? What do u think happens to the Russian oil once it’s refined to actual useful oil?
The US and EU might buy a little, but most of it is being bought by China, India, and Africa at a steep discount. As I’m sure you know. Everybody buying Russian oil deserves scorn, even if they are living in the EU or the US.
Lol first of all thats not true, please post any source and try to group by EU, China, India and Africa.
And what about the other point? Does Russia also need western democracy? Is that before or after Greenland?
