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    Here’s a list of websites China bans:

    • Google
    • YouTube
    • Facebook
    • Yahoo
    • Wikipedia
    • Marxists Internet Archive
    • Reddit
    • Fandom
    • Netflix
    • Zoom
    • Blogspot
    • Bing
    • Instagram
    • WhatsApp
    • Twitch
    • Roblox
    • Steam Store
    • Steam Community
    • Spotify
    • Messenger
    • X
    • LinkedIn
    • Skype
    • Tumblr
    • Pinterest
    • SoundCloud
    • Signal Private Messenger
    • Dropbox
    • Pornhub
    • XVideos
    • Medium
    • Dailymotion
    • BBC
    • The New York Times
    • Vimeo
    • The Guardian
    • SlideShare
    • Discord
    • DeviantArt
    • The Washington Post
    • Nico Video
    • Archive.org (Internet Archive)
    • Bloomberg
    • Flickr
    • Wretch
    • HuffPost
    • The Wall Street Journal
    • DuckDuckGo
    • Scratch
    • Reuters
    • NBC News -TIME
    • Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC)
    • Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC)
    • Bandcamp
    • Technorati
    • Archive of Our Own
    • Viber
    • South China Morning Post
    • Plurk
    • The Economist
    • ABC
    • Voice of America
    • Radio Free Asia
    • NBC
    • PBworks
    • The Epoch Times
    • The Epoch Times (Chinese edition)
    • HBO
    • WION
    • Hong Kong Free Press
    • Apple Daily
    • TikTok
    • ChatGPT
    • Rockstar Games
    • GitHub
    • Hugging Face
    • Flipkart
    • Zomato
    • Clubhouse
    • Swiggy
    • Truth Social
    • National Weather Service
    • Kanzhongguo (English)
    • Kanzhongguo (Chinese)
    • Microsoft Copilot
    • Telegram
    • Voice of America (Chinese)
    • Teacher Li Is Not Your Teacher (by a famous anti-CCP Twitter poster)
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        (tin foil hat)

        The government… They control the weather information… Satellites… Weather machines… Snorts cocaine we can’t trust them we need to trust our eyes…

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      Basically any site that they don’t have full control over/can’t buy favor from and has the ability to spread info they dislike, even if it’s something as simple as 2+2=4".

      And if you’re looking for someone outside of China to blame for their internet shield, Cisco was responsible for helping them set it up.

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      Fair point, but that means the ban should be coming from Department of Commerce, not the DoD.

      Don’t try to come up with bullshit excuses about espionage.

      “We’re banning these private-business Chinese websites because China bans our private-business websites and that’s anti-competitive”.

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        Hard disagree, censorship is not welcome in a free society. I dislike a number of those sites and haven’t heard of most of the rest, but I wouldn’t ban a single one.

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          Good luck dealing with the current far-right inthe government in the US and soon in the EU countries though

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            Censoring the far-right doesn’t make it go away. It just pushes it underground where it becomes even more radical outside of the moderating influence of the mainstream.

            The solution is not censorship, but to understand what is causing the rise in right wing radicalism and address the root cause.

            That root cause is the total loss of faith institutions coupled with economic insecurity felt by the working class. When people are scared and angry, they will turn to those who give them simple solutions and an easy scapegoat. It’s a tale as old as time.

            You can try and censor all you want, it won’t ultimately make a difference.

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              Censoring the far-right doesn’t make it go away. It just pushes it underground where it becomes even more radical outside of the moderating influence of the mainstream.

              I beg to differ. The situation was MUCH better in this regard in Western Europe 15-20 years ago when being openly far-right would get you socially ostracized for the most part, and media didn’t routinely bring far-right mouthpieces on national TV.

              That root cause is the total loss of faith institutions coupled with economic insecurity felt by the working class

              I do agree with that though, that’s why I’m a commie who wants economic security for everyone (i.e. guaranteed employment and housing) and strong and trustworthy institutions (such as powerful, free and public healthcare and education and pensions, and the end of austerity)

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        Yeah let’s follow China’s lead and become just like them! I support restricting political freedoms and a giant firewall and a social credit system too.

        They are obviously the superior system and therefore we need to emulate them.

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    Of course it’s not a military company, it’s an espionage company.

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        You know, you can be critical of a government without using racist slurs against the people from that country. Not everyone from China is part of the CCP.

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        giving you the benefit of the doubt like maybe english isn’t your first language, that word is considered a pejorative/slur in all modern usage

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            the wikipedia article on it cites two instances where it didn’t seem to be wayy back at the word’s inception. but yeah hardly matters in the grand scheme

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            Naw, it was most commonly used as a term similar to “that chinese guy” which is easy to confuse with racism at a time period where people were generally racist towards the chinese, but the term itself is not racist. There were actual slurs back then they could use if they were about that.

            My Grandmother said they always bought they’re vegetables growing up from the chinaman who rolled his cart through the alleyway behind their homes. It’s not a term of hate, but it’s easy to say hateful things alongside it.

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        Your submission in “Tencent says it’s not a Chinese military company and is willing to sue the US Department of Defense if it isn’t removed from a blacklist” was removed for Rule 3.

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          Your submission in “Tencent says it’s not a Chinese military company and is willing to sue the US Department of Defense if it isn’t removed from a blacklist” was removed for Rule 3.

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    Oh my, the US military might have to change the name of the list to, “Foreign companies we’re blacklisting for classified reasons”. How terrible.

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    Every fucking Chinese company is required to be an arm of their government and provide them with any information they request. It’s not even a question, they are an arm of the Chinese government. They can get fucked

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    Keep it a note that having them listed as a Chinese military company could let US put pressure against open source groups to not collaborate with them; very similar to how US forced Linux Foundation to kick off decade old russian collaborators.

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      That’s a bad mischaracterization. You cannot force someone to do something voluntarily . Torvald spoke in support of it. I’m sure many governments and groups using the Linux kernel and open source want Developers that are vetted. Or can be reasonably sure won’t be forced to act maliciously under duress.

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        It is not a mischaracterization though. Open source projects can be forced to stop accepting contributions from employees of sanctioned companies, which would include Tencent employees if sanctioned. Anyways, Tencent is not being sanctioned here, so I guess it doesn’t really matter.

        Also, Linus was definitely forced to kick the Russian maintainers out by USA sanctions.