Come to think of it, the Jedi are kinda dicks, they prevented anakin becoming a master despite his obvious talented skills in saber combat and his power in the force.

Not to mention, lore wise they let mundi have relations with his family where as it would’ve been a kick out for anakin.

Lastly, the jedi were sorta arrogant for thinking that nothing was wrong or that they were perfect despite having literal counterarguments from rebellious masters, Qui Gonn being a good example of somebody smelling the bullshit that the jedi were involved in.

So my fellow sith lords and jedi knights, what say you?

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    i think the fact he was turned so easily proves he shouldnt have been trained to the extent he was. that single failure caused the eventual death of millions

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      Yeah, the jedi were wrong, but the facts really point to “they were wrong to be so lenient”. Sure, if they’d let him become a master he might have had a bit more loyalty. But anakin was already too enslaved to his emotions, and even if they made him a master and condoned his relationship with padme, something else would be the spark that sideous used to turn him.

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        He trained from what, 8 years old until 20? They could have taught him to deal with emotions healthily instead of just saying “emotions bad, Jedi good”. There’s plenty of real-life examples of troubled people becoming healthy with the love and support of their family

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            They don’t, because it’s a fundamental systemic flaw of the Order. Someone like Anakin was innevitable, and those people show up regularly within the knights. Dooku and Ventress had similar problems, and that’s just major figures contemporary to Anakin. The Inquisitors were others with similar issues, and even they are just from the small fraction of Jedi that survived the innitial purge.

            It’s really not a coincidence that the most well adjusted Jedi spent so much time away from the Order.

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        add in the fact that palpatine told anakin to execute count dooku when anikan didnt want to, saying its not the jedi way, then later on sees a master jedi decide to execute palpatine. he saw their hypocrisy

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      He was turned by the guy who turned Count Dooku, who was already an old man when it happened. Anakin never stood a chance.

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      Yeah he should just have turned off, on his mother…
      I’m with OP 😅.

      That’s a good plot, but also ridiculous, transposed on a IRL situation.