• ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
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    46 minutes ago

    Remember, when Western companies violate privacy that is okay.

    When non-Western companies do it, that’s bad.

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    3 hours ago

    It is fine to have casual knowledge of or a hunch about something, but far better to have the research and analysis to prove it.

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    10 hours ago

    ITT: omg how other people don’t see what I, a very smart and superior person who browses technology communities, have known for years

    we should be celebrating that privacy issues are gaining more and more mainstream coverage.

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      No one cares about this stuff but techies/Lemmy. Regular people don’t care, like at all. They know tech companies do this stuff but if convenience>privacy, most people take the former every time to make life easier. Data privacy is not a tangeable thing in most people’s minds.

      There would have to be some sort of cataslismic event to wake people up enough for people to do anything meaningful. I don’t know what that would be, but I hope someone figures that out sooner rather than later.

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        I read this and ask “What is your intention with this post?” What is gained if everyone is this jaded?

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        I don’t think some mass “waking up” event is going to occur, but every time another headline about it shows up, it gets more difficult to ignore or not care about it. and every time someone who’s on the fence about the issue will pay more attention to it, and perhaps use the offending platform less. baby steps.

        besides, I wouldn’t say people don’t care, they do when they get offered a choice: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/96-of-us-users-opt-out-of-app-tracking-in-ios-14-5-analytics-find/

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        I don’t think this is true. Most people do care, in my anecdotal experience. I am not in tech circles. It is not a niche thing to be concerned about these days.

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          Eh, most do care, they just don’t do anything about it. My siblings and brothers don’t like that companies like Google and Facebook harvest so much data, yet they continue using them.

          So whether people care isn’t a particularly interesting question, I’m more interested in what people are willing to do about it. Will they change what services they use? Would they change who they vote for (if a party actually prioritized privacy)? How much are they willing to pay to not have data harvested? And so on. Those are interesting questions.

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            Disagree. I think everyone deserves a reasonable degree of privacy and interoperability and choice as a protected right, within the markets and services we already have.

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              I agree with that as well, I just don’t think the average person puts that at the top of their voting priorities, and as such, the major candidates don’t say anything about privacy when running for office.

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                I feel like positioning the ‘average person’ as always disengaged or never doing enough reads more like an attempt to define in/out groups than a genuine effort to actually do anything about the problem.

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                  Understanding the average person (or rather, the mode of the population on a given topic) helps to craft a strategy. If the average person doesn’t prioritize privacy, the solution probably isn’t to run a big campaign around a privacy bill, but to attack the issue of privacy at the fringes on things the average person does care about (e.g. right to repair for farmers, cars, and consumer devices; even abortion). You can point to privacy as being the main, underlying theme here, but focus the energy on things that actually have a chance of success.

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    We need you Lina Khan. We need you, but stronger, faster, better. Let’s fucking go.

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      People in this thread don’t seem to understand how anti big business the FTC has been since Lina Khan was appointed. These reports are meant to be used by congress to help guide real policy. It’s one thing to just assume social media is violating privacy, it’s another thing to have a facts-based report on exactly what is currently happening.

      Of course the FTC needs new laws to do any enforcement and there’s probably not enough anti corporation politicians to pass laws that give them real teeth on data privacy issues.

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        Cute of your to assume that regimes whores in congress gonna do something lol

        But hey let’s spend another 10 years praying for daddy Sam to save us

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    15 hours ago

    That’s literally the sales pitch to investors, and has been for decades.

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      Well, the Fediverse isn’t any more private, but at least it doesn’t care much about your data. That said, any company could come and harvest all of that data if it wanted since it’s open.

      The Fediverse isn’t the final step here.

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        I understand that, but it’s more about the targeted advertisements, sponsored posts, etc. Just give me my goddamn content and leave me alone LOL

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    So this is why I switched to the fediverse. But to be honest, I have no idea if someone does things like that here or not. All my posts are public to everyone and machine readable. The only thing which would prevent someone of survailing users on the fediverse is it’s very small scale. It is probably just not worth the effort.

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      The new-ish Federal Trade Commission head has been making a push to work on quite a few projects for the past couple of years. They have a very small resources and man-power compared to the war chests of multibillion dollar companies, but recently, somehow managed to bring charges against Google as a monopoly. This in my opinion is a good thing. I consider myself a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. I don’t like how our government seems to take the money of these companies and turn a blind eye as they do what they want in pursuit of the almighty dollar. I support her endeavors working for the interests of the majority of people and not those few with the most money.

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        I don’t like how our government seems to take the money of these companies and turn a blind eye as they do what they want in pursuit of the almighty dollar.

        What country do you live in?

        Because in the US, the government gives money to corpos. That’s how the entire regime works lol

        Politicians take donations sure but that’s not the government. That’s private regime whores living off corporate cash while handing out state aid Boeing intel and tech companies among many other parasites.

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      15 hours ago

      Have you considered that the answers you seek may be in the article?

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      Getting as much done as they can before the election in case Trump wins, I think