• Justin@lemmy.jlh.name
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    3 months ago

    Ok, fair enough, but then would it have been fair for Sweden to do so if they had not declared themselves neutral? The US was neutral too. Was it unfair for the US to send weapons to the UK or Ukraine? I would argue that it wasn’t, because of the ethics of defending countries from outside attack, and upholding international law.

    So then, what is the basis of “fair”? Ethics? International law? Statements by Kim? Statements by Biden?

    I mean, I pointed out why the ethics argue against it, and for international law, Russia’s importation of weapons from North Korea violate multiple UN Security Council resolutions.

    Kim’s statements don’t seem to justify this, since Kim has not made any outright statements about Ukraine, and has only pledged to supply weapons to Russia for “defence against aggression”, which does not match Russia’s situation. NK is basically saying they’re neutral, and then sending weapons to Ukraine, which doesn’t seem very fair.

    Biden definitely isn’t ok with NK sending weapons, and his administration has denounced North Korea’s involvement and pointed out that is illegal under international law.

    No party has made any statements justifying North Korea sending weapons to Ukraine, so I can hardly see how it’s fair.

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      3 months ago

      I find it funny that you’re using the UN Security Counsel as some sort of authority. Could you tell me who are the 5 permanent members of that security counsel? Those resolutions are only as legal as the they are enforceable. Honestly if North Korea wants to supply weapons to Russia and Russia accepts then who can stop them? No other country or entity has any authority of either. The best you can do is sanctions or war. But to give another example of how the UN has no power unless granted power; Everyone seems to forget that NATO, a defense alliance, attacked a sovereign European nation.

      NATO countries attempted to gain authorisation from the UN Security Council for military action, but were opposed by China and Russia, who indicated that they would veto such a measure. As a result, NATO launched its campaign without the UN’s approval, stating that it was a humanitarian intervention. The UN Charter prohibits the use of force except in the case of a decision by the Security Council under Chapter VII, or self-defence against an armed attack – neither of which were present in this case.

      From Wikipedia.

      So here we have NATO itself ignoring the UN Security Counsel.

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        3 months ago

        So you’re equating the 10 year-long invasion of Ukraine, complete with attacks on civilian targets, torture, and genocide, with the NATO airstrikes on the Yugoslav military during the Kosovo War?

        OK russkiy.

        • Eezyville@sh.itjust.works
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          3 months ago

          No. I’m equating Russia ignoring the UN Security Counsel with NATO ignoring the UN Security Counsel. And resorting to name calling just means you have nothing to use in this conversation.