For example, I’m sure the average joe doesn’t know just how expensive calligraphy pens can be, or how deep the rabbit hole goes on video game speedruns.

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    I am still amazed about how much money you can spend on making coffee at home. 300€ for a manual grinder - “that’s the cheao chinese stuff” wtf

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      I’ve got a £1000 espresso machine and that the cheap one. We also have all the pour over shite - scales, grinder, gooseneck kettle, Hario… It adds up quickly.

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        And when you invite a bunch people over and tell them yeah we’re into coffee and they ask you for coffee and you’re like… Ok I am incapable of making coffee for more than 2 people in under 15 minutes, I need to pull out the senseo pad machine.

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          Absolutely… someone at work was like, grab a coffee, see you in 5. Dude, it takes at least 15 minutes to make a coffee in this house.

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          Imagining making 3 cappucinos with a flair neo or picopresso is killing my soul

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            We have a ROK and my husband once did 3 espressos for guests in a row, it did break his soul a little bit.

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                Thank you xD

                You know what the most painful part is? When your guests try the coffee and are like “aaah wow yeah that’s… nice! It’s really, uhm, intense” because they are so used to their crap coffee and don’t get the flowery berry fresh aroma of specialty coffee and you’re just smiling and dying inside. I mean I would have hated this kind of coffee 10 years ago myself so I get it but man…

                This is why I still have a senseo pad machine. I’m not wasting my time, energy and coffee to make fancy hand filter coffee or manual espressos for people who really don’t care (unless they ask for it, in that case, waste away).

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                  I feel that exactly! Haha. My partner hates coffee, but will occasionally sip espresso just to contort her face into a brand new form of disgust I’ve never seen before, just to humor me. I have lots of non-coffee nut family members as well, so it’s usually just me loving it.

                  I’ve been thinking about getting an easy bulk coffee maker for guests, all I currently have are single dose hand grinders and whatnot. One day…

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        Yeah because it apparently tastes like blueberries, moss and the left knee of Mussolini’s grandma after a late afternoon walk in the summer rain

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          To be fair, you totally can taste the difference between roast levels and washed or natural coffees, and better coffee does taste better, but there are severely diminishing returns after around 25 dollars a bag.

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            I agree of course. It is just nice to have a variety and it is also worth the money to a degree.

            Although, I must say, I use rather cheap coffee (not more than 10€-12€/250g with the price resulting rather from fairtrade and organic labels than from it being high quality) if I want to make a milk based drink. I personally don’t think most of third wave/specialty coffee tastes good with milk. So using it on a latte macchiato seems like a waste to me.

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              Oh, for sure. I close to never drink milk drinks, so third wave stuff is great for me, but acid and milk don’t mix at all.

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                In general, I personally don’t think milk and coffee go well together at all, to be honest. I don’t drink milk drinks often, but when I do, I add tons of sugar and sirup and consider it a dessert and not “coffee”.

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                  Honestly I actually tend to think Oat Milk goes with coffee better than cow’s milk, and I’m not a vegan at all. Something about the oat taste I guess.

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      There’s coffee, and then there’s espresso. The former is much more sane, and unfortunately I’m into the latter…

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        I’ve purposely avoided getting into espresso because my wife already thinks i’m crazy for wanting to spend $6-700 on a new grinder and drip machine when our current ones “work fine”.

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          You can spend that much on a competent espresso setup with a Flair 58 and 1Zpresso K Plus/Ultra, or J-Max if you want something more modern and less traditional! However, you run the risk of the endless accessory game, and the urge to upgrade to something like a Zerno…

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            Yea, I have extreme fomo when it comes to hobbies, so i inevitable “have” to upgrade. I think it’s better I stick to my coffee. But, it’s nice to know I can start lower if I ever change my mind.

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              Yea, I understand that! You can go even cheaper if you are willing to sacrifice workflow, like using a Nomad or cheaper Flair model, or Cafelat Robot. Espresso hand grinders are really affordable now if you’re willing to hand grind too.

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                  And that’s perfectly fine. Coffee isn’t that complicated to make. Espresso on the other hand takes a lot of work to get right, and even if you can make it with a couple hundred bucks, it will take 20 minutes of work for a single shot, rather than 3-4.

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      Love coffee as a hobby for this reason. You can start with $20 to get simple pour over equipment or even nicer venas but you can go far and high with it eventually or stop at the $20