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      I did,it compared right wing extermism to left wing extremism. one had more death than the other but extremism nonetheless…hence same shit different pile.

      or are you suggesting being a left wing extremist is the better option than say being in the middle ground…because death??

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        One death from left wing extremism in 25 years, versus 329 from the right, 32900% more. To say that this is the “same shit” is clearly absurd. We aren’t discussing the merits of the middle ground. You seem to be suggesting that just because something is labelled as “extremist” it is automatically bad, regardless of what it actually is or what harm it causes.

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          one extreme isn’t exactly better than the other. they are extremes and should be regarded as such.

          left extremism does not represent good neither does it represent evil,same goes for right wing extremism.

          what i find interesting is people seem to think left wing extremism is the ONLY way to go,ignoring the fact that left wing extremism also practice discrimination, ostracism,bigotry and racism,not that much different from right wing extremism.

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            Who all is arguing in support of Left-Wing extremism? Other than select instances, most users on lemmy do not by any means support tankies. I for one can’t stand them.

            They can be just as out of touch with reality as a MAGA extremist, but to say both sides are the same is blatantly false. Far-Right extremism is spreading across the globe and it threatens and takes lives and destroys family systems.

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              i agree far right extremism is destroying lives and family system. the abolishment of roe vs wade have already proven very clearly what happens when right wing nutjobs run amok.

              we also clearly seen how devastating it can be for children as young as 5 to be on hormones treatment because their woke parents thinks their kid is trans.

              same extremism same kind of outcome.not one is better than the other.how do people simply think left wing extremism is inherently better or not the same as right wing extremism is beyond me.

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                “I agree, this fascist ploy that removed fundamental rights from dozens of millions of women is dangeroous! But have you considered this scenario I imagined that impacted nobody irl? Totally the same!”

                Left wing extremism is better because it’s morally correct.

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            Extremes are all relative, no? The political views that are centrist today would be extreme 100 years ago. Just saying they’re extreme and therefore bad is a weak argument.

            Sure there are bigots on both sides, there are bigots outside the extremes too. There are centrist bigots! There, now I’ve shown that extremism is just the same as centrism… Obviously that doesn’t work, though, does it? You can’t just pick one thing that happens and say “well everyone does this so they’re all the same”… Does it happen to the same degree? What are it’s consequences?

            I think you’ll find significantly more racism, sexism, etc on the right… Far right extenists are literal Nazis and white supremacists! Feminism, the civil rights movement, pride movement, etc, are all left-aligned… Extremist leftists sometimes lose sight of one aspect of this, but they so obviously aren’t the same as literal fucking Nazis!

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              you sound like a leftist apologist now.

              you don’t need to be a leftist nazi to be an actual nazi,the same as the right.

              what i also find interesting is leftist seemed to use the same reasoning to justify their extremism,not that much different from the right. no justification is enough on either side be be a nazi or behave like one.

              as far as i can tell:

              the right is consistently crazy.

              the left has been getting consistently crazier.

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                What are you talking about? Nazism is a fundamentally right-aligned ideology, how can you argue otherwise? You can invent definitions of what “left” or “right” means to suit you if you want, but why bother saying anything if you’re going to make up the meanings of words?

                Can you tell me what a “leftist” is? Or what they might want for the world? Can you tell me what a Nazi is? And then why you think there are parallels?

                I just don’t believe that anyone who understands what these words mean would think they are alike.

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                  so left wing extremists aren’t bigots, don’t discriminate, don’t spread hate or behave exactly like a nazi would???

                  a left wing extremist will behave exactly like their right wing counterparts. they exhibit behaviours just like those right wing nutjobs.

                  you call right wing extremist nazis,i agree. i call left wing extremists nazis in disguise.

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                    If someone is behaving like a nazi they aren’t a left wing extremist. The OG Nazis called themselves socialists - but they were not socialists, were they? They were fascists.

                    Can you show me any of these extremists who you think are both on the left and Nazis? And explain why you think they are both of those things?

                    And to be clear - I am not calling all right wing extremists Nazis. All Nazis are right wing extremists, not all right wing extremists are Nazis. You seem to be content to throw the word around for anyone who you disagree with, but it is in fact a word that represents a specific political ideology which occupies a particular place on the spectrum.

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                    I’m a left-wing extremist and believe absolutely nothing that you’ve invented for left-wing extremists.

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            If you can understand that extremism isn’t inherently good or bad, what matters is what’s correct, why do you have to lie and pretend the left supports racism, discriminatuon, ostracism, and bigotry when the extreme left combats those as foundation?

            This is a mind-numbing take only possible by a privledged person who has never spoken to a leftist, only heard about them through Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, and Ben Shapiro.

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              so far,the leftist are here calling me a rightoid,transphobe,homophobe signs of what right wing extremists does.

              so you tell me.

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                You are right-wing, so that’s true. You’ve also been repeating LibsOfTikTok-style lies about the left “transing kids,” which is debunked nonsense, and is in fact transphobic to peddle. I haven’t seen any homophobia from you yet, but the other 2 are correct.

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        Extremism is not good or bad, just like being in the middle is not good or bad either. What matters is what’s correct.

        For example, between being pro-fascism and anti-fascism, anti-fascism is both extreme and correct.

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          sure,if that’s what you think is correct.

          i am sure when you preach that being gay is God’s intention,i am sure Christians and Muslim will agree that correct.

          don’t forget to label me a homophobe if that’s what it is now.

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            I don’t preach, I’m not religious. You’re now putting words directly in my mouth because that’s all you’ve done from the start: lie about fake leftists that hurt your feelings.