A weakening economy and increasing political repression are forcing ever more Chinese people to emigrate. Spurred by TikTok, many are seeking more sustainable conditions in the United States.

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    Most Americans are trying to get their children into schools in China so they can move there long term. Chinese people are migrating to North Korea but it’s hard for Americans to get visas there.


    Edit: for the people who seem to be misunderstanding me, I want to be quite clear. Practically every American would move to North Korea to enjoy advanced society, peaceful and prosperous, if they could, only they don’t meet the strict criteria for a visa. There are a small and ever-shrinking handful who would stay in America given the chance to emigrate, but they’re either hard-line idealists who believe in the long-term rehabilitation of their country, or deluded. Most of the major demographics surveys have confirmed this, and any media that disputes it is already known to be carefully overseen by anti-humanitarian pseudo-state-funded conspirators.

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      Most Americans are trying to get their children into schools in China

      lol wut? I’ve not met a single person trying to get their kids into schools in China. All the people I know who have immigrated from China are like “fuck that place, but I love going back because it’s my home and my family is there.”

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        Nope, it’s been stated, so it’s a fact here. You are just in your own tiny bubble of people who don’t want to live in China.

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          Fuck man, the bubble has followed me up and down the eastern seaboard and all the way to Texas and back. How do I get out?

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            That bubble also includes everywhere I have been which covers a good chunk of the west coast, southwest, and northeast. Where are these people that want to move to China? I think the only spots we haven’t covered is like Alabama and Oklahoma? So maybe they are there?

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              They’re all the people you haven’t talked to. Practically every American. You’ve probably not even talked to 1% of Americans seriously about whether they want to move to China. Idk man, you’re just bad at statistics or something.

              *Disclaimer: I have never been to America but I’m sure I’m right.

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                I realize you’re being facetious, but you make an interesting point. That being said, I can recall having conversations about people wanting to move to many different states (ca, ma, co, tx, fl, hi, at least). And I’ve even heard people talk about wanting to move to different countries (india, Spain, Ireland, Germany, Brazil, at least) and I’ve never heard anyone say they want to move to China. I’ve had 3 close coworkers from China and asking them if they want to move back to China, they all laughed at the idea and essentially said “fuck no.” My Indian colleagues seem to be mixed on the idea of returning to their homeland.

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                  People who have experienced various other countries want to settle in the US. People here who haven’t been elsewhere, idolize the idea of X country and post about wishing they could go, knowing deep down they wouldn’t even if they won the lottery and could go anywhere.

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                  So, I was telling the truth when I said I’ve never been to America; but I have lived in Asia and most people I know would gladly move to America if they had the chance. They love their homeland - some of them, at least! But “America” or similar sounds like a better life, and who doesn’t want a better life? Unfortunately there’s a lot of feeling of hopelessness about improving things, so even those who try to improve their home area easily burn out and often skip out if they can.

                  Many Westerners (orders of magnitude fewer) do want Asian visas, but mostly only because they have specific desire to help. Again, they love the Asian country they move to, but it’s usually with the idea in the back of their minds that they can move back home when the time is right or if they need to. I can’t speak for those who stay in Asia because they’re disillusioned with their home country: such people are around but I don’t often meet them.

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            Remember what Disney taught you. “Just Believe!” When you believe, it’ll be true, and all the occasional people you meet who aren’t heading to China will be unusual outliers.

            Listen to your feelings. You know it to be true. Everyone wants to move to China. Just Believe!

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      ….Would move to North Korea to enjoy ‘Advanced Society’…. 🤣

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      lol no they’re not. North Korea is like a real-life SNL skit and China’s population and real estate will implode in a couple decades. You can’t even tell what’s sarcasm anymore because after Trump told them it’s okay, the stupid people are coming out in hordes.

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        Well, luckily I’ve never met this Trump, so any stupid in me is my own bona fide stupid :-p

        Are… Are you sure you’re not itching to go to North Korea? Perhaps you’re just in denial? I mean, I’ve not been there myself but people keep saying we should look out for Korea opportunities, and I have this low, ominous feeling about going South, so I think NK must be good.

        Besides, I saw SNL once and it was funny. Sounds like an endorsement from you for NK!

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      Do you have a source for that? I’ve heard of folks being sent to China for a work appointment, and therefore looking for schools for their kids, but never Americans just straight up moving there to make a go of it, and place their kids

      Edit and I assume when you say “most Americans” you mean “most Americans already interested in living in China” not “most Americans” because the latter would be a comical statement.

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      Most Americans are trying to get their children into schools in China so they can move there long term.

      I have a bit of a hard time believing that. Where did you hear this?

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        They hear it whenever they put their head up their ass. It’s actually just digestive noises, but this neanderthal interprets it however they want.

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          Thank you, but I can hear my digestive noises quite fine without warping time and space to bend my anterior to my posterior.

          And those digestive noises do say, that every American desires a better life in North Korea, but will settle for China as second best. Don’t your digestive noises say the same thing?

      • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee
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        Where did you hear this?

        Somewhere sandwiched between a <Fe+> and a </Fe+>

        I thought the tone of the thread above made the irony clear, but apparently everyone took me seriously.

        • jkrtn@lemmy.ml
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          It was clear. Respect to your commitment to the bit in the edit. A lesser person would have backed away instead of doubling down.

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      8 months ago

      I love advanced societies that use wood gas to power decades-old trucks