Only seven states currently bar “subminimum” pay for tipped workers like bartenders and restaurant servers, but activists see 2024 as ripe to expand the tally to as many as 20.
First, your server isn’t getting anything for free, they’re working for their wage and tips.
Second, when it comes to the absolute basics necessary to survive then yes, people who could not otherwise afford to live should ABSOLUTELY get things for free.
people should be able to do whatever they want as long as it doesn’t affect others
Stiffing your server DOES affect others, though.
as a customer I should not be expected to tip as in pay the restaurants, employees or whatever
True, but right now it’s the least bad alternative to starving and homeless servers.
I do not go to restaurants and I encourage others to do the same
Which is even worse for the servers since fewer customers means fewer tips and may eventually mean getting fired.
You’re basically taking food out of the mouths of those who (used to) serve you and their children.
I was with you all the way until you said not going to a restaurant is even worse. I think I’m with the other person, though if so they are doing a poor job explaining it. Nobody should HAVE to tip, but since you do it makes sense to vote with your wallet and not go out to eat that often, if ever. Even better if you do go to any restaurants that don’t require tipping (though those are few and far between).
I was with you all the way until you said not going to a restaurant is even worse
I meant for the server specifically, which was clear from the context. Even the SWU have said not to boycott Starbucks to support their unionization efforts, since that’s just going to get them fired in the long run.
Besides, the economy as a whole would pretty much collapse with ripple effects all over if too many people stopped going anywhere with servers, hurting everyone except ultra-rich people tremendously.
Nobody should HAVE to tip
I’ve been saying that the whole time.
since you do it makes sense to vote with your wallet and not go out to eat that often, if ever.
On the surface, yes, but not actually. See above.
What WOULD help not just the servers but everyone including yourself would be to keep pressure on politicians until they pass a living wage for servers, making the bosses pay for their employees like in all other industries.
First, your server isn’t getting anything for free, they’re working for their wage and tips.
Second, when it comes to the absolute basics necessary to survive then yes, people who could not otherwise afford to live should ABSOLUTELY get things for free.
Stiffing your server DOES affect others, though.
True, but right now it’s the least bad alternative to starving and homeless servers.
Which is even worse for the servers since fewer customers means fewer tips and may eventually mean getting fired.
You’re basically taking food out of the mouths of those who (used to) serve you and their children.
I was with you all the way until you said not going to a restaurant is even worse. I think I’m with the other person, though if so they are doing a poor job explaining it. Nobody should HAVE to tip, but since you do it makes sense to vote with your wallet and not go out to eat that often, if ever. Even better if you do go to any restaurants that don’t require tipping (though those are few and far between).
I meant for the server specifically, which was clear from the context. Even the SWU have said not to boycott Starbucks to support their unionization efforts, since that’s just going to get them fired in the long run.
Besides, the economy as a whole would pretty much collapse with ripple effects all over if too many people stopped going anywhere with servers, hurting everyone except ultra-rich people tremendously.
I’ve been saying that the whole time.
On the surface, yes, but not actually. See above.
What WOULD help not just the servers but everyone including yourself would be to keep pressure on politicians until they pass a living wage for servers, making the bosses pay for their employees like in all other industries.