With fighting raging around Khan Younis and in the north of Gaza, a video has emerged on social media showing dozens of Palestinian men detained by Israel.
Brings back memories of dehumanised people, that of all the people in the world, Israelis were expected to never want to see again the most
And they still call themselves democratic country. Very democratic of them to humiliate human beings whose only fault is that they are of “military age” and not evacuated to the south. Apparently for Israel all males in Gaza are guilty until proven otherwise.
And they still call themselves democratic country. Very democratic of them to humiliate human beings whose only fault is that they are of “military age” and not evacuated to the south.
What exactly do you think democracy means and why does this run contrary to it? Democratic countries go to war all the time, especially when attacked. Perhaps this is about disarming and searching potential hostiles and not humiliation.
Apparently for Israel all males in Gaza are guilty until proven otherwise.
In the evacuation zone? Yes, and they have stated as such, everyone there will be considered a potential enemy combatant.
‘Evacuation zone’ aka these peoples homes and communities, where many other civilians need rescue and aid. No no please keep supporting the idea that 2 million people can just move to an undeveloped plain and have all aid including food, water and shelter withheld. Collective punishment is a war crime.
Monstrous take. Do better.
When nations go to war they go to war collectively, everyone who lives in said nations will have to all share the negative consequences of doing so. That is how war works. Counter-attacking a belligerent nation that attacked you and cutting off their supply lines is not collective punishment as in the war crime. That only applies when they are occupied, and Israel withdrew from Gaza and has not occupied it since 2005.
Inaccurate concern trolling, attempting to to bind Israel’s hands and deny them from achieving meaningful safety. Do better.
“meaningful safety”
LOL
KILL, KILL, KILL FOR PEACE
A textbook genocide with daily war crimes.
There are no more corners to cut from Israel’s holocaust victim card
Oh look more war crimes.
You are in fact supposed to give them their clothes back after you make sure there’s nothing bad in them. This kind of humiliation is a form of torture.
Before someone asks, I’m pretty sure they aren’t going anywhere with hoods and cuffs on.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
With fighting raging around Khan Younis and in the north of Gaza, a video has emerged on social media showing dozens of Palestinian men detained by Israel.
Asked about the video, a spokesman for the Israeli government told the BBC the men detained were all of military age and had been “discovered in areas that civilians were supposed to have evacuated weeks ago”.
In the video, dozens of men are lined up on a pavement and appear to have been told to remove their shoes, which are scattered across the road.
Another image - which has not yet been verified by the BBC - shows men blindfolded, kneeling in what appears to be a large pit of bulldozed sand.
On Friday, Israeli government spokesman Eylon Levy told the BBC the men had been detained in Jabalia and Shejaiya in northern Gaza, which he described as “Hamas strongholds and centres of gravity”.
It added that soldiers forced the men to remove their clothes and “subjected them to invasive searches and humiliating treatment upon their arrest, prior to transporting them to undisclosed locations”.
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The IDF actually staged a video where they forced one guy in his underwear to hold a gun and put it down somewhere as to pretend that they were combatants…
https://youtu.be/qd1rR_UNSFg?si=QKBX7POCVzPXbQBW
Also a plethora of women saying the IDF stripped them, beat them and threatened to rape them. Disgusting barbarians.
Even if it wasn’t staged, are they “Hamas fighters” for owning rifles? I don’t see any of the missles and weapons Hamas are known to own and produce. This is even less stuff than they “found” in the MRI machine in that hospital after all those people they killed.
Israeli citizens and namely settlers have been getting licenses for weapons since October 7th. This is, of course, totally acceptable because they’re Israelis and Jews.
Anyone else doing that is a terrorist and must be neutralized, alongside every member of their families 🙄
And if all of this is a security concern, why did they even publish such pictures that clearly give them really bad PR?
Bravo, Israel, you are just showing us you’re willing to go full Satan.
If he was holding the gun while he was surrendering him it would be justified, which is what they’re seemingly trying to stage in this video.
The problem is that the man got the gun in one hand in one video, the gun is then in his other hand in the next video, which proves it was a retake of the same act.
They quickly deleted the second Twitter video in classic IDF fashion when they see they leaked propaganda evidence.
And somehow he’s allowed to have a gun while being in his underwear…
Seems just a tad too suspicious.
And somehow he’s allowed to have a gun while being in his underwear…
Yes, somehow he was stripped before the rifle was taken away from him. Totally “checks out”.
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Do we know whether those are civilians or Hamas members? IDF tells those are terrorists, al jazeera says the right opposite. None of them can be considered trustworthy, so that’s why I am asking whether someone knows more.
It doesn’t matter. Prisoners are out of the fight and should be treated humanely. Putting hoods on them and tying them up are control measures. Keeping their clothes is just a form of humiliation torture.
so even taking some clothes off can be understandable because there is a suspicions they have bombs tied to them. However, you can do one check and then give them the clothes back.
Yes, the fact that they are all sat down with no clothes is very wrong. They should have had their clothes returned.
Just a correction, they weren’t “sat down”. They were forced on their knees. It just gets uglier and uglier.
The people released so far were civilians and reported other civilians and family members bought* there. One is a journalist, not released yet, no idea where he is. They are in undisclosed locations and their families don’t even know. No weapons were found or ceased. The IDF itself says they took them purely for being Palestinian men in the north. They pulled them directly from a refugee camp where families were sheltering. The women there were threatened at gunpoint. They didn’t “surrender”.
Edit: typo.
That’s honestly sad. I understand the need to check whether they don’t have weapons but tying them like this is too much. And then even the recording screams, “see how we dehumanize them.”
Fighting age men, in groups, in an active combat zone, when everyone else is evacuated. 🤔
The IDF showed restraint and it’s interesting to see the pro-hamas crowd trying to spin this as bad.
Honestly given what you can see a better headline for this would be, ‘Hamas unit with embedded journalist throws down weapons and surrenders to IDF after realising Hamas actually is just trying to kill Palestinians for propaganda’
Oh no. Unarmed people not in a uniform what do we do? Such a moral dilemma?!?
Oh wait. Nope. You leave them the fuck alone. You can’t arrest an entire city for existing.
You know who these “Palestinian men” are?
Civilians, most likely. Why, are you okay with treating ANY human being like this?
But of course the IDF won’t say who they are or why they are holding them in this position that with all honestly invokes images similar to the holocaust or some other fucked up human tragedy.
Edit: I think your comment is quite shameful. It is an attempt at excusing Israel’s humiliating treatment of Palestinians. If you read the article, these people were arrested for simply being men and for being in the North of Gaza… And yeah, you’ll probably think anyone in the north deserves to die after Israel told people to evacuate… Even though it bombed them in the North and South and in their homes and shops and streets and everywhere they go. Fuck Israel. Zionism is facism. This is facism. And supporting it is supporting a Hiterly figure who dehumanized Palestinians like Hitler dehumanized Jews. When I see someone see these images and still excuse the crimes of Israel, it makes me hate living in this world.
What makes you assume they are civilians, and shouldn’t this be verified? That’s the nature of war; It seems provoking one wasn’t the best idea. Strip searching them and arresting them is pretty humane considering the alternatives.
For starters one of them was a journalist and he is still detained.
Edit: I think you’re turning a blind eye to this. Look at the pictures again. Would a “democracy” do this? Or does it look more like something from a chapter in a history book?
Would a “democracy” do this?
A democracy literally is doing this.
They’re torturing and interrogating them. That’s literally the story here.
You think a strip search is torture?
Yes, humiliation with no purpose is torture.
Translation: “OH this inhumane treatment of Palestinians, noooooo, that’s just the special Israeli strip search technique! You strip them, you beat them, you make them do 5 minutes of montage, you take them to the desert, blindfolded, naked, humiliated, like a photo from a history book, and then you make then kneel for 3 hours. Meanwhile they have no idea where their wives or children are, and vice versa. They don’t even know what location we brought them TO. AND THAT IS THE GREAT AND AMAZING ISRAELI STRIP SEARCH TECHNIQUE. How dare you call this torture? They were KHAMAS suspects!!”
No, they’re not civilians, they’re Hamas members came out of tonnels Northern Gaza when IDF have started to flood them with sea water
And how else is IDF supposed to make sure that they don’t have any weapons?
And it’s not even comparable, stop equating things with holocaust, it’s really disrespectful
Do you have a source or is all this bullshit pouring out of your ass?
What’s disrespectful to the holocaust IS TO FUCKING REPEAT IT AND CLAIM THE HIGH MORAL GROUND.
No point arguing with him, he seems much like an pro-Zionist and will claim anything without source - to “prove” his point.
Recommend just block such people, not worth the energy and time.
Even the article he/she linked in response to this says two opposite things: they “surrendered” and that they “were being checked”.
Those men in that picture will need therapy, a lot of it, to overcome this crap… If they even make it out alive.
Hamas threw the first punch then ran to hide in the shadows.
How else can you retaliate without blowing up everything casting a shadow?
By retaliating in a manner that doesn’t involve blowing up everything that casts a shadow
I feel like trying to define a ‘firat punch’ in the shit show that has been palestinian-israeli relations is a fruitless task.
Surely a more productive avenue would be to seek common ground, shared humanity and a practical way forward among the moderates on both sides.
It’s a very easy task for someone who wants to start the clock at a point that makes Israel look like the victim.
this bullshit pouring out of your ass
I am not going to respond when you talk like that.
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/1701980659-over-150-hamas-terrorists-surrender-to-idf-forces-in-khan-yunis https://www.algemeiner.com/2023/12/07/hamas-terrorists-surrendering-large-numbers-israeli-forces-reports/
And it’s a reality of war.
Maybe you missed the memo, but no one believes the IDF anymore and neither should they believe a bunch of people sitting on a pile of skulls that used to be journalists and UN workers.
But yeah I couldn’t give two shits about whether or not you like how I speak. Everyone can see through you.
Edit: do you REALLY think you need to blindfold people, strip them to their underwear, and make them sit somewhere in a line on their knees in a humiliating fashion, out in the open to investigate their activity?
This isn’t even new. We know Israel tortures people in prison. We know they have been stripping lots of people being detained WITHOUT A FUCKING CHARGE.
Is this a regime you are proud to defend? Seriously
“I’m not gonna respond”
Responds
The IDF: they surrendered
Also the IDF:
The IDF ordered women in the area to go to a nearby hospital and later threated to shoot them if the men did not come out of their homes, he said.
One war crime after the next after the next after the next…
The IDF (again): but they are just KHAMAS fighters!
But also the IDF:
The Arabic language news outlet, which also publishes in English under the name the New Arab, said Mr al-Kahlout had been arrested along with his brothers, relatives and “other civilians” by Israeli forces in Beit Lahia.
Fuck the IDF and all their actions from the bottom of my fucking heart.
This story today almost had me collapse, I don’t know what made me not pick up that coffee mug and slam it across the floor. How can anyone allow such sad footage to remain the current reality? How could anyone defend this dehumanization of Palestinian men who have spent the last month mourning their dead or trying to pry them from under rubble, with no food and no clean water? How did Israel get us this fucking far and deep into human rights violations?
And it’s not even comparable, stop equating things with holocaust, it’s really disrespectful
Just FYI, holocaust denial began during the holocaust. The denial of this genocide of Palestinians is also happening during. Do you know how many Germans couldn’t get themselves to believe the atrocities committed by their government? Do you want to repeat the same today?
Where are you getting this information?
He’s getting it from the same people that committed this human rights violation. 😅
Somewhere up his ass
Dude, that report literally said one of them was a well-known journalist.
One of them is a well known journalist.
Ya they are men from Palestine. Doesn’t make them Hamas because I doubt the IDF are taking prisoners of war. They bomb hospitals and refugee camps. Taking a enemy combatant alive isn’t their MO.
That’s the point, not all Palestinians are members of Hamas, it’s sad that people equate between the two.
Not really.
And Israel does takes POW, how else would it get to know where Israeli hostages are?
One of the men identified as having been detained is a well-known Palestinian journalist, leading his employers to accuse Israel of carrying out “invasive searches and humiliating treatment” of civilians.
“We’re talking about military age men who were discovered in areas that civilians were supposed to have evacuated weeks ago,” he said.
Mr Levy added that they would be questioned to “work out who indeed was a Hamas terrorist and who is not”.
He emphasised the detained men had been found in areas where Israeli forces had engaged in “close-quarter combat” with Hamas. They had been “deliberately disguising themselves as civilians” and operating from civilian buildings.They found them in an active war zone where they said anyone remaining would be considered a potential enemy combatant. They didn’t shoot them, instead they arrested them to determine who is a hostile. I guess the IDF is damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
They’d be less damned if they stopped their relentless bombing, their overall invasion, had a longer ceasefire for refugees and medical and humanitarian aid, allowed food, medical supplies and humanitarian aid into Gaza, weren’t telling people to evacuate during these days and then bombing them, weren’t telling them to move to these neighborhoods and then bombing them, weren’t killing and kidnapping random Palestinians in Israel and the West Bank, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc …
It’s almost like Israel was once again provoked into war, and all that that entails… cutting off supply lines, destroying enemy infrastructure, launching attacks against Hamas members who surround themselves with human shields, etc, etc, etc…
- Israel has been letting in supplies and humanitarian aid to Gaza.
- The IDF has been clear that they will attack Hamas targets wherever they find them, the evacuation zone is where they will consider anyone remaining to be a potential enemy combatant so it still makes sense to leave.
- Any crimes committed by civilians in the West Bank need to be prosecuted, and I don’t know what you mean by kidnapping, but I presume you’re inappropriately conflating “random kidnapping” with military arrests.
Declaring you’re going to commit a war crime doesn’t make it not a war crime.
