(Stillwater, Okla.) — In a remarkably rapid verdict, a Payne County jury took only 35 minutes to convict a man, who considers himself a sovereign citizen and represented himself at his trial last week, of child stealing, possessing guns illegally, and obstructing an officer in rural Stillwater.

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    8 months ago

    If “Sovereign Citizens” truly weren’t US citizens, there wouldn’t be a need to go through all of this.

    I agree with your post in general, but this is not true. It’s not only citizens who are guaranteed rights to trials, etc.

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      8 months ago

      It’s true, we give trials and similar protections to citizens of other nations, but if someone weren’t part of a nation at all, why bother? There wouldn’t be a larger body of organization that would be interested in protecting them.

      And we have suspended that right to non-citizens before. That was a major issue with Gitmo (in addition to the cruel and unusual punishment)

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        8 months ago

        That was a major issue with Gitmo (in addition to the cruel and unusual punishment)

        That was (arguably) different since it wasn’t on american soil