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  • Being middle class always struck me as having a moderate amount of disposable income after all regular life expenses.

    I’ve been getting shit since “Bad and Bougie” became a thing that the bougerouise were “middle class” in pre-revolutionary France.

    Because “middle class” isn’t a mathematical range, class are not defined that equally.

    In modern America we have:

    1. Oligarchies

    2. People who don’t have to worry about money.

    3. Homeowners living paycheck to paycheck

    4. Renters living paycheck to paycheck.

    Really you could combine 3 and 4, but home ownership is one of the last big investments people have. When “American middle class” became iconic, homeownership was just taken for granted.

    It’s a vague outdated system to expect there’s only 3 classes in the American economy




  • Protesting a dealership when no one wants to buy one is performative.

    Where protests should be happening is factories because even if Musk has to shut down one day, that is expensive, and it’s expensive to start it back up again.

    So what’s really effective is protesting factories and not letting workers in.

    For a day or two.

    Then leaving till it’s started back up for a couple days, and just repeating that. Make them open and close production constantly. Make Tesla workers tires of the bullshit, better yet make Musk fire them so they get severance and unemployment.

    So:

    Look at the risk/reward of what you want to do/say at a dealership. Nothing you put on a sign is going to change anyone’s minds.

    To quote a saying that’s been around for way to long:

    You can beat the charges, but you can’t beat the ride

    Meaning it doesn’t matter if what you’re doing is illegal, cops can still beat you, take you to jail, and just drop charges 10 minutes before you get to see a judge.

    Edit:

    moderately upscale suburb of DC with a particularly liberal (not leftist, liberal) population base. The protest has been happening every Saturday for several weeks now, and usually pulls around 200-300 people

    Why the fuck is 200-300 people next to DC not fucking protesting politicians?

    I assumed you were in some random city, you all are literally right next to DC and instead of taking advantage of that you’re wasting your time with this?

    Go fucking protest the actual government in DC, lots of Americans would love to switch locations with you so they could have the opportunity you’re wasting.

    Especially since DC is probably the last place that needs people to be discouraged from buying a Tesla right now.





  • The symbolism is destroying an entire company.

    Musk doing multiple Nazi salutes on national television at CPAC did more, his rampant cuts of the government did more to hurt Tesla’s image.

    Especially because those are the big reason for protests…

    Like, what you’re doing is saying the reason people don’t like a convicted murderer is they were convicted.

    That is them facing consequences.

    The protests are a consequence not a cause.

    Do you honestly think people think that destroying some cars will bankrupt him?

    I have tried explaining multiple times how that makes him money…

    How would something that makes someone money ever bankrupt them?

    That’s a rhetorical question, I’m not wasting anymore time on unproductive things



  • Ok

    So, in that clip the joker had taken money from someone, and is destroying it.

    You get that?

    An unsold Tesla, if set on fire, will make Tesla the same as if you gave them cash for MSRP.

    That is more profit then if you bought one because they’re sold under MSRP right now for 0% interest.

    Does just… Literally anything I am saying make sense to you yet?

    The joker destroyed wealth, but destroying an unsold Tesla gives musk more money than if you purchased it



  • The cost to insure a Tesla Model 3 went up 30 percent last year.

    I’d absolutely love to understand how these protests raised insurance rates for the year before the protests started.

    Cuz buddy, that’s basically time travel, and it would be fascinating to learn how it works…

    But what’s probably more likely, is the stuff I just explained, and your article agreed with me on.

    I have zero idea if you’re agreeing with me intentionally tho, because you literally just put a link with zero context.



  • Bruv…

    Are you under the impression for insurance for a manufacturer on their existing inventory is the same thing as a random person’s insurance on a personal vehicle?

    Edit:

    And the liability to insurance companies has existed for a long time…

    Tesla locks down their supply chains, there’s no option besides “manufacter parts” and Tesla sucks at making them.

    So a fender bender could be months to get fixed, and insurance may be on the hook for rentals for that period on top of higher than average repair costs, which leads to Teslas being marked “totaled” when others would be repaired …

    Like, I agree in spirit, but you just don’t understand what’s happening…

    But if you set a Tesla on fire at a Tesla lot…

    You just made Elon more money than if you bought it.

    That’s important for people to understand


  • This whole time I can’t help but think…

    What’s the point in burning unsellable cars that take up real estate on sales lots?

    If you burn them Elmo gets the MSRP (probably more) from insurance, if you don’t burn them, no one is buying it anyways. The few that are, use the 0% down 0% apr loans and Tesla loses money on those.

    Setting a Tesla on fire in 2025 makes Musk more money than buying one.

    Let them rot on the lot.

    Quick edit:

    If you want something that will help, organize protests at the manufacturing plants.

    We don’t need to protest stores that have zero buyers anyway…

    But shutting down and restarting production lines is insanely expensive. And Tesla workers are almost guaranteed to hate their job already. That’s the weak point, that’s where pressure should be applied.