To be clear, I am only talking about people like the average working class Trump voter. The ones who just got caught by misinformation, and just haven’t been able to find a way out. Trump and all his mates are terrible people, and should be held accountable.

The average voter is another thing. My attitude is that I got lucky, and found out that Trump and his mates are terrible, instead of getting sucked down a rabbit hole of supporting them. Knowing how fascism works, I don’t know if I’d be able to reliably land on the right side if fascism happened in my home country. And if I don’t believe I could reliably spot fascism, I’m not comfortable acting like those who support Trump could have.

This isn’t a discussion of “just be a good person”. I know plenty of amazing, caring people who believe they’re doing the right thing.

This whole idea of “I can’t say is reliably avoid fascism” is based on this, the school that became fascist for a week. As bad of an experiment that was from that teacher, it was an effective way of teaching how people fall for what should be obviously a bad thing.

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    4 hours ago

    Here’s the context I was talking about, which you are evidently unable to locate yourself.

    The point is that there’s nothing materially different about the deal that your boy “worked out”, save for the timing. Do you not understand that this sort of mafia-esquire ratfucking is a well-known tactic that Trump and his circle regularly and enthusiastically use?

    • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
      1·
      4 hours ago

      Oh so there is a ceasefire? And it was negotiated by Trumps envoy?

      Damn, you sure abandoned that “utter nonsense” claim you made quickly. Almost like you knew it was wrong from the start.

          • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            3 hours ago

            It’s really wild that you’re sticking to your guns on that point in the face of mountains of easily-confirmable evidence to the contrary.

            It was not negotiated by your boy. It was negotiated by the US Department of State months ago. The only material difference is timing. The timing is such that it makes Trump look good to uncritical minds, kool-aid drinkers, and gives bad-faith actors (such as Trump, his envoy, and yourself) a thin veneer of credibility about “stopping the violence” when what actually happened was a prolongation of the violence for political benefit.