I have a close friend that I’ve known 20 years who became obsessed with right-wing politics. even though I’m liberal, I don’t make it my entire personality and life. But anyway… I was talking to him this morning casually like friends do.

Me: “Hey man. Do you have off today for MLK day?” Friend: “No, I have to work today.” Me: “Damn, sorry to hear. I have off today since it’s a company holiday.” Friend: “Yeah, I work for a living. Guess that’s the difference me and people who live in an ivory tower.” Me: “Uhh I work for a living too. Idk why you’re acting like I don’t?” Friend: “I didn’t mean you specifically. But you’re off and I’m not so it shows that you get to relax at least. You should be able to handle the truth lol. There’s no shame in admitting that I’m a harder worker than everyone else. you shouldn’t be so sensitive”

Honestly, he’s not unique, either. I’ve met so many people who are conservative, obsessed with right-wing stuff, and they’re all like this. They act like they’re special and the whole world is lazy, “no one wants to work anymore” attitude.

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    Left aren’t any better, they have stallin apologists for one, in your quest to “give rights to minorities” you end up marginalizing the majority for two & three your open border policy causes massive economic damage

    Plus I am talking about those said good actions, also there’s a world outside of politics

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      The Stalin apologists are mostly an online phenomenon and a tiny but loud minority. I’m leftist and anarchist. Authoritarian communism/socialism (since USSR was never communist…) doesn’t interest me. And theory from the turn of the 20th century is nice but doesn’t apply well to the extreme tech advancement of the 21st.

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      Left aren’t any better, they have stallin apologists for one, in your quest to “give rights to minorities” you end up marginalizing the majority for two & three your open border policy causes massive economic damage

      So I’m going to skip the obvious Russian talking points here (open border policy causes economic damage? What the fuck are you talking about? Stalin apologists–like Putin? He’s not Left wing) and go straight to

      “you end up marginalizing the majority”

      No, you don’t. One of the key socialist ideals is that when one person suffers, we all suffer. There are arguments about how to reach true equanimity, but until then just by being ‘the standard’ you are impossible to marginalize. Conservatism puts men first, especially in our movies:

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      Room temperature? Designed for middle aged white men.

      If men are ‘demonized,’ why are only 8.2% of CEO’s women? Why are abortions controlled, but not vasectomies?

      I understand why you are saying these things though, people on ‘the Right’ fall for Russian propaganda far more than ‘the Left’ do:

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      You’re a naive fool if you think democrats have an “open border policy”. Go talk to your right wing business owners and suggest that if we really wanted to stop illegal immigration, we would jail business owners who hire them. Surprise surprise, those right wing owners exploit these people but don’t really want to stop any illegal immigration.

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        Funny because, those right wing business owners never said that They would rather employ their own people, rather than those immigrants

        You’re talking about corporations, who don’t really have any political affiliation & try to suck up to anyone who is currently in charge

        Again you assume all right-winger are the same, People are very nuanced & it’s naive to go “Leftists = bad & Rightists = scumbags”

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          I imagine this is the kind of nonsense political take one develops when they go through life only skimming a few grade school social studies textbooks and actively disregarding all other reality or thought.

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            Sounds like you’re projecting your lack of insight into humans onto me Unlike your priviledge ass, I come from a minority & worked my way to a stable job

            my fellow minorities (along with me) mostly never got the welfare that they deserve. You’re too busy crapping on Right-wingers & not actually putting in the work

            Keep that up & you’ll lose even more footing, you need to clean up the opposition (As in the democrats), but judging from this Thread It’s not going to happen (I’ll be glad if it did though)

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              My guy 😭 you don’t know how wrong you are. I’m a black woman from a single mother that paid my own way to a bachelor and career in engineering. I am putting in the work, I am out on the streets in my community, organizing with a revolutionary party. I invite you to read through my comment history. Check your fucking privilege.

              The Republicans and Democrats are both right wing parties of capital. Neither of them are on the side of the people and they absolutely were not about to give you welfare reform. They are beyond cleaning up.

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      1. Those are called tankies and nobody likes them. Especially those of us on the left.

      2. “Marginalizing the majority”. Yeah, because white Americans are so marginalized with their hegemonic control over the state and capital.

      3. Oh, no! The economy is tanking because Juan from Chiapas got a job picking oranges for a Dole contractor in California for less than federal minimum wage because his shitbird boss pays him under the table. Do you know how fucking stupid that sounds?

      No, there is no world outside of politics. The personal is political. Choosing to associate with ignorant bigots says more about your values than any half-cocked appeal to moderation.

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        What hedgemonic control ? People have been losing jobs left & right

        The right knows how to mask their hatred when it counts, while the left is busy virtue-signaling, Anyone half-intelligent will use whatever tools effective & honestly so will

        Rightist policy of exclusion is pretty good you know, I want to exclude capitalists from society for e.g

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      noooo you HAVE to enforce borders with violence!!! How else will you keep out all the cretins from nations whose infrastructure you’ve destroyed and resources you’ve plundered!!! You can’t possibly take care of all those people, think of tHe EcOnOmY!!!

      hahaha that’s so funny guy you really think this is a normal and well adjusted view of the world. Those scare quotes around uplifting minorities is a cherry on top. You’re so devoid of empathy you can’t even fucking imagine a world of people that actually care about each other for the sake of their humanity.

      I’ll take a “stallin apologist” over a capitalist that cares more about his stocks than his fellow man. Any fucking day of the week.

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        And this is where the left fucks up. I live in a state full of ski resorts (and work for one) where they import cheap legal immigrant H1B and J1 labor rather than pay living wages to locals, depressing area wages and leading to a two tier society - the servants of the rich tourists (myself, literally), and the rich tourists. The rich tourists buy up all the housing and we have no housing for essential workers. I’m right now going through a nightmare healthcare situation because healthcare in vermont is virtually non existent - young people can’t afford to stay here, so it’s full of high medical needs retirees and wealthy second home owners and tourists. I had to call every single dental office in my area and up to an hour away to find one that would take my emergency situation.

        During the 2020-2021 season, they couldn’t import labor because the borders were closed over covid. Guess what? I got a $4.00 an hour raise instead of a $0.40 raise. It’s simply not fair that corporations can arbitrage their labor costs but I can’t just get up and leave and go to Europe or some shit for better living conditions without jumping through a million difficult hoops meant to exclude me.

        I support refugees coming here, I do not support the current immigration system that abuses cheap foreign labor and treats them like slaves because they have very few rights and if they meaningfully speak up at their work place asking for better work conditions they get sent home.

        Liberals support that bullshit because it fuels their treat economy. Leftists should not.

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        I do care about empathy, just not for people who keep saying “Right wing bad, Left wing good” When have you actually done something for the working class ??

        Oh & reminder Stallin apologists are class traitors, if these are the people you’d chose then you are basically killing your own movement you’re too busy marginalizing the majority, which can be turned to your side

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          When have you actually done something for the working class ??

          I march in solidarity with striking union workers while the Conservatives in my area call for them to be ordered back to work.

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          Oh & reminder Stallin apologists are class traitors.

          Who told you that? The American capitalist class? You really trust what they have to say about the leader of a socialist country they were trying to justify a war with, and prevent their own working class from getting any ideas, at all costs?

          I invite you to challenge all beliefs that have been formed under a state which finds itself threatened by socialist revolution.