What defederating would mean:

  • We won’t see beehaw.org posts/comments on other instances.

Pros:

  • There is less confusion, you can’t respond to a beehaw.org user, thinking they will be able to see your response when in reality they cannot.

Cons:

  • We won’t be able to see any beehaw.org comments/posts on other instances, so we will miss out on some comment threads and posts. It could be good to be able to see them and interact with the other users there even though beehaw.org users won’t see any of our content.

Summary

Overall, I think it is better not to defederate, but simply unsubscribe from all of their communities (and as we no longer get posts from their instance, with time these will cease to appear on our ‘front page’).

beehaw.org users already can’t see our posts/comments anywhere so it’s not like defederating would change their experience in any way, so it wouldn’t really be retaliation and would just limit the content available to lemmy.world users.

What do you think?

  • Synapse@lemmy.world
    1·
    1 year ago

    Lets avoid defederating. I am not to sure why beehaw.org defederated Lemmy.world, i understand it’s not a final decision but more of a quick mitigation to deal with de difficulty related to the reddit exodus. Right?

    • MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 year ago

      I think we need to avoid defederating as well, should only be used for the most problematic, habitual cases of malicious intent imo.

      We need to let this grow and solidify a bit more before we start to really get in the weeds as far as our identity as a community.

    • FantasticFox@lemmy.worldOP
      0·
      1 year ago

      But surely we hope that this level of users is permanent? I think it’ll be in place until lemmy has better moderation tools, which could be quite some time. It has the benefit that it is Open Source though so anyone can help.

      • poVoq@slrpnk.net
        0·
        1 year ago

        The problem is mainly that open registration allows quick ban evasion, making it very hard to remove bad actors that are using instances with open registration (without admin approval).

        • FantasticFox@lemmy.worldOP
          0·
          1 year ago

          But admin approval just slows it down right? Like how is the admin going to know you aren’t a bad actor?

          It also really slows down the sign-up process which will cripple the growth of the Fediverse.