What defederating would mean:

  • We won’t see beehaw.org posts/comments on other instances.

Pros:

  • There is less confusion, you can’t respond to a beehaw.org user, thinking they will be able to see your response when in reality they cannot.

Cons:

  • We won’t be able to see any beehaw.org comments/posts on other instances, so we will miss out on some comment threads and posts. It could be good to be able to see them and interact with the other users there even though beehaw.org users won’t see any of our content.

Summary

Overall, I think it is better not to defederate, but simply unsubscribe from all of their communities (and as we no longer get posts from their instance, with time these will cease to appear on our ‘front page’).

beehaw.org users already can’t see our posts/comments anywhere so it’s not like defederating would change their experience in any way, so it wouldn’t really be retaliation and would just limit the content available to lemmy.world users.

What do you think?

  • MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    What happened? Why are they making this move? I think it’s a bad idea to start defederating, especially this early.

    Edit: How effective or practical, for lemmy.world in the future, would a voting system be for defederating? In case it comes to that for us.

    Cause it seems like a very dramatic approach, with only a few people making the decision to drop a ton of content yknow.

    Not sure if it’s possible even, I know it comes down to our admin, but they seem pretty cool. I dunno just thinking aloud.

    • FantasticFox@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      They said they couldn’t deal with the level of abuse and spam that came from lemmy.world users. They have a much more restrictive content policy and smaller, centralised moderation team than most other instances which exacerbated the problem.

      • MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Tbh, that’s kinda hard to believe. I have seen zero malicious activity in my 4 days here. Maybe their standards are just higher than mine, not sure that’s a good thing in this case but whatever. Damn that sucks, beehaw had some good stuff.

          • MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            Sigh.

            Who tf comes online just to troll “beehaw” some obscure instance on an obscure platform? That’s crazy to me lol.

            • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social
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              1 year ago

              I mean, there are trolls on Reddit to be fair, it’s not terribly surprising that if a lot of Reddit users move to some place, a bunch of trolls will come with, either because they too don’t like reddit’s changes, or because they see new communities to mess with. And I can imagine that, if someone is a troll and gets enjoyment out of bothering people and causing anger, that a community that is pretty restrictive in it’s rules and tries to maintain a “calm” and “safe” sort of vibe is probably going to be a more satisfying target?

              Beyond that, I do think I recall seeing one of the beehaw admins saying something about not wanting theirs to be the place all the redditors move to, because they don’t want keeping the community run and moderated to be a full time thing and because they want quality over quantity, in terms of their community. If they feel like they’re reaching the limit of how big a community they can comfortably handle and dont want it getting much bigger, then a controversial move like this that might lose them some users isn’t going to be a problem for them.

              I’m not saying I like this move, I don’t personally have any real stake in it obviously not being hosted on either instance involved but I worry that fragmentation like this while people are starting to really look into the platform as a whole isn’t a great look for lemmy, -but I do get where they are coming from.

      • ShakeThatYam@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        What’s dumb is that if someone wanted to troll them they could just make an account on any number of smaller instances that they federate with. I mean, eventually they will have to be completely siloed off to prevent outside trolling.