• SSJMarx@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Patriarchy absolutely teaches us that. It’s part of enforcing heteronormativity in men - if you find another man attractive or beautiful, you cannot express that without being accused of being gay, and this seeps into our self conception where not only do we have trouble viewing ourselves as capable of being beautiful, but we aggressively police men and boys around us who we perceive to be seeking beauty themselves.

    There’s been movement on this in the younger generation, but it’s still the hegemonic attitude.

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      2 months ago

      Bullshit. That’s one tiny aspect of it - men unable to support other men. The vast majority of the problem of men seeing themselves as disgusting is feminsm. “All men are potential rapists” is a disgusting and extremely prevalent ideology. All men are trash, all men are pigs, you see women say these things all the time and it’s just accepted.

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        2 months ago

        “All men are potential rapists” is a disgusting and extremely prevalent ideology

        This is not a prevalent ideology. I’m sure some edgy teens on tumblr have expressed this opinion, but what you think is feminism is actually a phantom you have constructed in your mind.

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          2 months ago

          I’m sure that even if I found literally a thousand examples you’d continue to claim “well that’s not REAL feminism”.

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            2 months ago

            And I’m sure that if you actually engaged with feminism in good faith instead of blindly dismissing it off of out of context clips from “feminist OWNED” compilations, you would revise your opinion on it.

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              Cute, you’ve got this idea in your head of who I am. Could I possibly be a reasonable person with a valid point? No. I must be an Andrew Tate - huffing knuckle-dragging woman-beating mongoloid. That’s the only type of person who could ever possibly have an issue with feminism.

              • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
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                The hilarity of you taking issue with others ascribing positions to you based on a cursory interaction when that’s all you’ve done in this entire thread for both posters and feminism as a whole is quite rich.

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                    2 months ago

                    Are you implying that you’ve meaningfully examined feminist theory vs cursorily argued about it on the Internet? Considering your primary problem seems to be the basic concept of what patriarchy is I kind of doubt it.

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                2 months ago

                you’ve got this idea in your head of who I am

                It’s not in my head, it’s on the silicon. The evidence of you not knowing what you’re talking about and getting really mad about it is plain for everyone to see.