Most encryption services have probably been infiltrated by the feds to some degree, and I can live with that. It’s the corporations I want to hide from.
France has recently started going after people who organize demonstrations.
They have had zero problems getting big social media and even Discord to give up information about people.
But some chat apps were safe from the governments, so why do you think the Telegram CEO was arrested?
Recently? Maybe i’m wrong, but i remember a 2 years old news telling that france was pursuing allowing the police to spy on rioter’s phones… I remember it was not long after the “end” of the yellow jacket’s riots, so maybe it’s even older.
Telegram is not safe from governments. Maybe safe from Western ones.
It does not have E2EE for most things. Which means TG users are not safe from TG owners, and TG owners are not safe from those who are the force behind them.
Maybe it’s Israel, maybe it’s Russia, Durov’s female friend was spotted in Baku in a “cyber-security” center operated by Israelis, so maybe Azerbaijan. Maybe I don’t know.
You don’t have to know which exactly force that is. All you have to know is how TG works.
people who organize demonstrations
… can use Signal. Its usability has improved a lot since I last tried using it. I’ve just moved half of our family chats there, another half is waiting till a bit later, because they are on another continent. It’s as convenient as WhatsApp.
France has recently started going after people who organize demonstrations.
They have had zero problems getting big social media and even Discord to give up information about people.
But some chat apps were safe from the governments, so why do you think the Telegram CEO was arrested?
Recently? Maybe i’m wrong, but i remember a 2 years old news telling that france was pursuing allowing the police to spy on rioter’s phones… I remember it was not long after the “end” of the yellow jacket’s riots, so maybe it’s even older.
Dysthopic vibes.
I forgot about that, my “recent” was more like half a year to max a year. But now that you mention it I do think so yes.
Very Orwellian
Telegram is not safe from governments. Maybe safe from Western ones.
It does not have E2EE for most things. Which means TG users are not safe from TG owners, and TG owners are not safe from those who are the force behind them.
Maybe it’s Israel, maybe it’s Russia, Durov’s female friend was spotted in Baku in a “cyber-security” center operated by Israelis, so maybe Azerbaijan. Maybe I don’t know.
You don’t have to know which exactly force that is. All you have to know is how TG works.
… can use Signal. Its usability has improved a lot since I last tried using it. I’ve just moved half of our family chats there, another half is waiting till a bit later, because they are on another continent. It’s as convenient as WhatsApp.
I assume he was arrested because he is a russian asset.
Regardless, he was doing business in France and not following its laws. So the official reason still makes more sense than your fantasies.
Yes, companies should comply with law enforcement when their platform is evidently used for crimes.
Then his company should be sued first though? Just like other social platforms.
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Not if there’s evidence against him.
Why would they sue the company when he is the criminal?
There’s actually a lot of evidence that what France is claiming is simply incorrect.
Source?
Goal posts are moved quite quickly here.
It’s because he kept letting terrorists and child molesters get away with their crimes.
Governments would continually go to him and ask for help to save people’s lives and he told them to fuck off.
He’s right where he’s supposed to be now.