• SupraMario@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Trump is what they’re pointing out, but I think they’re forgetting all the prior years of complete false information during bush and Obama. This isn’t something just recently popping up, it’s been going on for a while now, Trump just made it a lot louder.

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      1 year ago

      There wasn’t an “alt-right” during theGWB era in the USA as what did exist was the nazi fringe. Bannon via Trump made that fringe become mainstream

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        What’s out there now is the same shit that was out there during the build up of the war. You might just be to young to remember it. There were tons of people driving around basically waving the “blow up brown people” flags and immigrants are taking our jobs types. It’s just more in your face now with the internet being more a daily thing.

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          Im 49. The alt right was a lot smaller because their philosophy of isolation was at odds with the globalist perspectives of the neocons in charge. There were racists but they were not as invested in reactionary politics.

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        There wasn’t an alt-right because it was just “the right”. The alt-right now was quite literally just the Conservative party back then in 2001

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          They have very different political takes on international trade and immigration. The neocons and the altright are not the same. Neither are good but they hold different views.

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      Sure, it was there before Trump. It technically can be traced all the way back to Reagan and the Religious Right movement. We saw it pop up its ugly head from time to time. Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, the Tea Party movement, and so on. But Trump gave it new life. He redefined the movement into something so much newer and more sinister. To some degree they unshackled themselves from any illusion of actual well-intentioned religion. But most importantly for this conversation, 2016 was the year that they started actually using the internet as a recruitment tool. The alt right went mainstream. I grew up in rural Wisconsin and it’s the year that half the people I knew on social media went rabid conspiracy theory bleeding red Republican. As someone else pointed out, it’s the year that Cambridge Analytica started harvesting data from people on Facebook to use for political campaigning. 2016 was an explosion of what was there before that culminated in the election of Trump. And that’s the year that I really felt the greatest shift in discourse on the internet. The spectacle of 2016 turned everything towards news on social media and away from personal connections.