• Nic Cage@lemmy.world
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      Ah yes, “I’ve personally done this and I’m the most important, therefore it’s not true. It’s the experts and engineers who are wrong.”

      Besides “everybody look at me!!”, what is your point?

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        It’s not that I know better than them. It’s that they are completely blowing things out of proportion.

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          And you say that based on personal anecdotes, rather than education and design/testing/systems implementation experience.

          Do you think 10k miles (unknown time frame, but my point stands even at one year) is a singular meaningful data point for the thousands (millions now?) of Autopilot enabled Teslas?

          What is the right proportion for it to be blown up to your loved one was killed?

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            And you say that based on personal anecdotes

            Because nothing more is necessary. If it was an “experiment” I would know about it because it would be driving erratically and attempting to kill me but instead it is “pretty good”.

            What is the right proportion for it to be blown up to your loved one was killed?

            I would be very upset that there was such an irresponsible driver behind the wheel for sure. That’s not Tesla’s fault. You can’t blame Tesla because they added safety features to the car…

            Also there are dozens of other cars with this same technology on the road but everyone wants to pick on Tesla because it makes headlines.

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              If it was an “experiment” I would know about it because it would be driving erratically and attempting to kill me but instead it is “pretty good”.

              Mate, that’s not an experiment lifecycle works at all. The ignorance on display here is palpable.

              I would be very upset that there was such an irresponsible driver behind the wheel for sure. That’s not Tesla’s fault. You can’t blame Tesla because they added safety features to the car…

              How convenient, you avoided answering my question at all! And rather blame the poor implementation of an inaccurate technology, disguised as a safety feature (that has directly caused 17 fatalities, mind you), you blame the user (victim). Actually, I’d make the argument this isn’t a “safety feature” at all, more of a convenience feature, but I digress.

              Also there are dozens of other cars with this same technology on the road but everyone wants to pick on Tesla because it makes headlines.

              I’ll gladly shit on all the other manufacturers implementing this technology. It’s all garbage if it poses a threat to a human life.

              All of this is out of scope as my point is your anecdotal experience is not significant and dismissing results due to your own biases is quite ignorant.

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                The ignorance on display here is palpable.

                Agreed.

                How convenient, you avoided answering my question at all!

                Why do you hate children?

                that has directly caused 17 fatalities, mind you

                [citation needed]

                It’s all garbage if it poses a threat to a human life.

                It doesn’t. It’s the opposite. It protects human life.

                dismissing results due to your own biases is quite ignorant.

                How can I “dismiss results” when none have been presented?

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                  Agreed.

                  eye roll I’m so ignorant. My CompE Master’s and my previous work in vision-based AI collision detection systems has left me woefully unprepared to have educated and qualified experience for this exact topic.

                  Why do you hate children?

                  I never mentioned children, don’t put words in my mouth. Keep deflecting.

                  :citation needed:

                  Here you go: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/06/10/tesla-autopilot-crashes-elon-musk/

                  Nifty: https://www.tesladeaths.com/

                  It protects human life.

                  I’m sure the 17+ dead human lives really appreciate this “protection”.

                  Maybe “results” wasn’t the right word. Dismissing the findings of engineers close to the technology might fit better, but I’m definitely calling the number of fatalities and accidents caused by Autopilot as results of Autopilot and therefore Tesla.

                  It is not my intention to attempt to change your mind on this technology though, I’m just pointing out your anecdotal experience is not significant and dismissing the findings of engineers close to the technology due to your own biases is incredibly ignorant. This mindset is harmful whether you accept that or not.

                  Best of luck and good day.

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                    My CompE Master’s and my previous work in vision-based AI collision detection systems has left me woefully unprepared to have educated and qualified experience for this exact topic.

                    That’s awesome! Would you share more with us about the research you conducted with Tesla’s AutoPilot, and specifically what makes it “experimental”?

                    I never mentioned children

                    How convenient, you avoided answering the question at all!

                    Here you go:

                    As I suspected, nothing points to the notion that this was caused by AutoPilot. It’s caused by inattentive drivers.

                    This is nothing but shit “journalism” playing on whatever is “hot” and trendy.

                    I’m sure the 17+ dead human lives really appreciate this “protection”.

                    There are no dead human lives. You’re just making that up.

                    dismissing the findings of engineers close to the technology due to your own biases is incredibly ignorant.

                    I don’t have any biases. “Ignorant” is claiming that a driver assistance system is responsible for driver inattentiveness.

                    Bye bye now.